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New jailbreak available for iOS7 by the evad3rs

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Re: New jailbreak available for iOS7 by the evad3rs

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Post by baddox »

aroch wrote: post #44
reginaldjcooper wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes those were the two choices, jailbreak or not stare at the phone before sleep. Very perceptive, aroch.

Does being snarky make you feel better about yourself? I find it hilarious that someone who knows that staring at a bright blue-white screen is going to impact their sleep, continues to do so. It is even more amusing to think that they'd rather drop $400+ on a new Android phone that can run lux/redshift instead of modifying their own behavoir in a trivial way.

Let the duel of snarkiness continue.

Re: New jailbreak available for iOS7 by the evad3rs

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Post by lorenzopicoli »

grugq wrote: post #72
DLay wrote: post #27

From Jay Freeman's (saurik) twitter: So, I got no lead time on evasi0n7, nor was I asked for an official iOS 7 Cydia; I was not given builds, nor was I asked for things to test. In fact, @evad3rs didn't even try my testing build of Substrate I gave core developers, so they didn't notice a fundamental incompatibility. This means they are going to have to push a new version of their untether to fix this oversight befor…

Well, the reason that the Cydia store doesn't work, and that Saurik wasn't included in the discussions, is starting to become clear. A Chinese company paid the evad3rs a rumored 1 million dollars for the jailbreak, forcing their own App Store onto the phone. If the computer running the jailbreak has Chinese as the main language, then the Chinese 太极 (taiji) market app is install. Cydia is available as an option, but i…

Saurik did know about the Chinese company and tried to warn Evad3rs about piracy, but I read that Evad3rs thought that the app had nothing to do with piracy. [1]

(https://twitter.com/saurik/status/414836148737802240) (https://twitter.com/saurik/status/414836169218592769)

EDIT:

[1] "In our agreement with Taig, we contractually bind them to not have piracy in their store. This was an extremely important precondition of working with them." http://evasi0n.com/l.html

Re: New jailbreak available for iOS7 by the evad3rs

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Post by biafra »

smtddr wrote: post #4
ashray wrote: post #2

Finally! I've been waiting for an iOS jailbreak to finally be able to use bitcoin related stuff on my iPhone and iPad. It's been a pain so far. This is the first time that the iOS walled garden approach REALLY started to bother me. The other was to do with emulation but that was filed under 'minor nit-pick'.

I need some help understanding this. So, at my job the way I install iOS apps onto phones that are not at the AppStore is that the developers give me the .ipa file and I do: ideviceinstaller -i /path/to/ipafile (You can get this prog by doing "brew install ideviceinstaller", takes awhile) Is there some reason the bitcoin devs can't upload the ipa somewhere and have everyone do that? EDIT: Ah yes, joshstrange & jreed9…

Your phone is not only registered to the apple dev portal but also as one of 100 to the developers certificate.

With an enterprise certificate distribution is technically possible and many do distibute their beta software this way. But I am sure Apple will revoke enterprise certificates if they are used to distribute apps en masse outside the App Store.

Re: New jailbreak available for iOS7 by the evad3rs

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Post by pdeuchler »

grugq wrote: post #72
DLay wrote: post #27

From Jay Freeman's (saurik) twitter: So, I got no lead time on evasi0n7, nor was I asked for an official iOS 7 Cydia; I was not given builds, nor was I asked for things to test. In fact, @evad3rs didn't even try my testing build of Substrate I gave core developers, so they didn't notice a fundamental incompatibility. This means they are going to have to push a new version of their untether to fix this oversight befor…

Well, the reason that the Cydia store doesn't work, and that Saurik wasn't included in the discussions, is starting to become clear. A Chinese company paid the evad3rs a rumored 1 million dollars for the jailbreak, forcing their own App Store onto the phone. If the computer running the jailbreak has Chinese as the main language, then the Chinese 太极 (taiji) market app is install. Cydia is available as an option, but i…

FWIW the evad3rs team responded:

http://evasi0n.com/l.html

Re: New jailbreak available for iOS7 by the evad3rs

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Post by rimantas »

mortenjorck wrote: post #99
grugq wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, the reason that the Cydia store doesn't work, and that Saurik wasn't included in the discussions, is starting to become clear. A Chinese company paid the evad3rs a rumored 1 million dollars for the jailbreak, forcing their own App Store onto the phone. If the computer running the jailbreak has Chinese as the main language, then the Chinese 太极 (taiji) market app is install. Cydia is available as an option, but i…

Wow. This changes a whole lot of things. This is basically the worst-case scenario for Apple in terms of jailbreaks: For the first time, there's an unknown corporate actor calling the shots, and the high code-signing security of iOS 7 has backfired, causing this to be the only jailbreak on the market. If this becomes anywhere near as popular as Evasi0n for iOS 6.1 (over 7 million downloads in its first few days), App…

  > (over 7 million downloads in its first few days),
  > Apple will have not simply lost control of the
  > platform to a bunch of power users
How about checking the number of iOS devices sold, comparing to your 7 millions and stopping big claims about Apple losing control over the platform? I'd also argue, that there are lot less reasons to jailbreak iOS 7 compared to iOS 6.

Re: New jailbreak available for iOS7 by the evad3rs

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Post by rimantas »

endgame wrote: post #68
reginaldjcooper wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My top three: Freedom to copy your data out of an app into your computer even if the app doesn't "allow" it. E.g., get into Notes.app's sqlite database after they decide to delete all the data when you unlink your account even if it hasn't successfully synced for a year so that you can recover half of it. Develop apps on your own device without paying $100 and supporting the war on general purpose computing. Also com…

Good points, but I'm sorry to point out that buying the iPhone itself supports the war on general purpose computing. Jailbreaking might get you out of this set of digital handcuffs, but what about the next one, or the one after that?

Do you also claim that buying Wii, Xbox, PS also support "the war on general purpose computing"? What kind of ideas is this? If I buy milk do I support the war on grain based food? Do those buying Android phones without any intention to develop for the platform or rooting their phones also support the war on general purpose computing?

Re: New jailbreak available for iOS7 by the evad3rs

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Post by stcredzero »

manmal wrote: post #80
graeme wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I actually have those goggles, but find they don't fit well over my glasses. Know of any pair designed to work with glasses? I know flux isn't perfect. But as I don't really use my phone much before bed, it seems to work well enough. The glasses could be useful for late night computer work though.

How about a stick-on filter specifically made for iPhones? https://www.lowbluelights.com/detail.asp?id=110

For $24, you can get enough orange filter gel to make a filter for your 27" screen, then have enough left over for a couple of iPads and several iPhones.

Re: New jailbreak available for iOS7 by the evad3rs

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Post by voltagex_ »

rimantas wrote: post #136
endgame wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Good points, but I'm sorry to point out that buying the iPhone itself supports the war on general purpose computing. Jailbreaking might get you out of this set of digital handcuffs, but what about the next one, or the one after that?

Do you also claim that buying Wii, Xbox, PS also support "the war on general purpose computing"? What kind of ideas is this? If I buy milk do I support the war on grain based food? Do those buying Android phones without any intention to develop for the platform or rooting their phones also support the war on general purpose computing?

I come at it from a different angle. I support and assist open source projects where possible, I use an unlocked Nexus device and will be buying a Jolla phone ASAP. I don't like the trend towards closed devices either.

I think the "war on general purpose computing" was a term coined by Doctorow (or Stallman?) and I have to agree with it in principle. I just can't go all the way and use a Longsoon-based MIPS device because of performance concerns.

It's not quite black and white. I can quite happily buy a PS4 (did you see the list of open-source software they used?) and still support the FSF and EFF as necessary.

Re: New jailbreak available for iOS7 by the evad3rs

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Post by DavideNL »

IBM wrote: post #5

I can't think of a compelling reason to jailbreak my iPhone in 2013, and I suspect that's true for a lot more people than it was in the past.

i want f.lux sooo bad, i would definitely jailbreak only for f.lux.

However, what keeps me from jailbreaking is 'using my banking app' on my iPhone :'( Unfortunately the jailbreak also opens the phone operating system to spyware/viruses etc.

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