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That is disasterous. That logic is why Chaimberlain allowed Hitler to get more and more and more power. ("Surely they'll agree to peace if we just let them have Poland.") It is also why my generation (I'm 27) will eventually have to fight a nuclear war that pits Iran against Israel and possibly the US. That war will potentially kill millions. And whose fault will it be? Obama's and Bush's. They will (if history is ju…

It is also why my generation (I'm 27) will eventually have to fight a nuclear war that pits Iran against Israel and possibly the US. No, we won't. There is simply no geopolitical logic to Iran and Israel going to war.

Umm, Iran is run by a council of religious fanatics. There is no logic to Iran.

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> [...] but RSA said in a statement: "RSA always acts in the best interest of its customers [...] True, you just have to keep in mind that their customer is the NSA.

RSA is thinking they can claim ignorance in the case of the DRBG being weak / possibly backdoored.

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RSA is commercially dead. There's no excuse. Also, closed-source hardware HSMs are blackboxes that are fundamentally paranoia-inducing. There's no reason to trust that the vendor, supply chain and/or manufacturers didn't backdoor them or introduce other attack surfaces. The only way to trust an implementation is decap a sample of ASICs and match features against masks you generated... from sources you trust (whether…

Not necessarily. Organisations which wish to cooperate with the government (and they are legion) may still consider RSA. Though one wonders if NSA advised government organisations to avoid RSA. Hmmm.

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Just a side note, rouge = red, rogue = villain/scoundrel/etc... I hate being that guy but it happened twice and triggered my have to post response. Tshuß!

Just a side note, "Ts ch üß!" = bye/cheers/etc; "Tshuß!" = I can't spell German. I hate being that guy but … wait, I'm lying, I love it, but I normally try to restrain myself.

"Tschüß" = I can't spell German either, or I haven't been paying attention for over a decade.

In many instances, "ß" has been replaced by "ss", namely where the resulting sound ought to be sharp and short. Schuss, Tschüss, Nuss.

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USCC doesn't protect anyone either. They, like most of the Department of "Defense", are almost entirely offense in nature.

The best defence is a good offence.

We're not talking about fistfights here.

The best solution is to prevent the problems; I hope you understand while reading this article (which went here on HN some time ago):

http://news.yahoo.com/german-police-used-only-85-bullets-aga...

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It did make word temporarily safer from Iran nuclear bomb though. Of course, it is only temporary, but almost everything you do is. As for the article, it claims that Stuxnet "opened the Pandora box", but it did nothing of the sort. Stuxnet by itself did not enable anything that wasn't possible before - it was possible for malicious actors to create attacks on US networked infrastructure, and it still is. Stuxnet cha…

Does anyone series believe that Iran is a threat to the world. How about basing threat levels on previous actions? For example, who invades countries most often? Or who's military kills the most people? I've heard about WMD threats before - and who did the invading and killing in the end? That saga ended with almost everyone looking bad.

Define "threat to the world". Can Iran destroy the whole world? Fortunately, not. Can Iran destabilize, hurt and incite violence? Not only can, it is doing it right now.

>>> basing threat levels on previous actions?

That would be stupid because it means that only the second action can be countered. Given how first action can cause devastating consequences, limiting oneself to only reacting to a second one would be terminally stupid. American administration, for example, was justly criticized for sleeping through 9/11, and acting unprepared when it happened. Generals like to prepare for the past wars, it is much easier, but there's no reason to condone such behavior.

>>> who invades countries most often?

Invasions can differ. If Nazi Germany invaded Poland once, and Britain invaded Nazi Germany once, they are not equal.

>>> who's military kills the most people?

Again, depends on the people. If Al-Qaida kills 3000 Americans in 9/11, and then Americans kill 10000 Al-Qaida fighters after that, I'd say good job, they only should have done it earlier, so we would have 3000 less victims.

>>> That saga ended with almost everyone looking bad.

It looks bad to you because you take an impossible position that fighting evil should be done without hurting anyone. It would be nice if there was a nice, fluffy, unicorn-land evil that you could fight by issuing a strongly-worded declaration of condemnation and maybe refuse to send them a Christmas card next time. Unfortunately, real evil is much harder and messier to fight.

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Yes, Iran's totalitarian leadership is a threat to its neighbors, particularly Israel.

A war between Israel and Iran would be an epic disaster; too bad to even consider leaders of either country being that stupid. I think the arming of Israel with nuclear weapons is probably the biggest mistake the US has ever made... If Israel didn't have nuclear weapons there would be no way I'd consider Iran trying to get them (at almost any cost - we should have aiming for a nuclear free world), but with the situat…

Fortunately, leaders of Israel do not rely on your consideration when determining what is necessary to protect their country. It is very nice that you wouldn't consider Iran attacking Israel if Israel didn't have advanced weapons - but there's a little wrinkle in this otherwise perfect argument. Iran doesn't need your consideration to attack Israel - they are perfectly capable of doing so without it, and already doing it, albeit through proxies. If Israel did not possess advanced weaponry, they would do it directly - as was done many times before in history, and only the repeated failure taught those countries that direct attack does not work. Some of them learned the lesson and reluctantly accepted the existence of Israel, some just concluded they need a different, smarter tactics.

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Yes, Iran's totalitarian leadership is a threat to its neighbors, particularly Israel.

Well, the nuclear industry disagrees with you. According to their experts, a nuclear Iran is a good idea. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Shah_of_Iran_building_two_...

It's funny how oil was running out in the 70s and still running out 40 years later. I'd imagine it will be running out pretty much the same way in 40 years, and 40 years after that.

Besides that, that Iran doesn't exist anymore.

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Enough monkeys could take even 800-pound gorilla. In fact, it is considered a common knowledge that some bipedal monkeys regularly took 16000-pound mammoths, ate them and made dwellings out of their bones. So if I were a gorilla I wouldn't underestimate 30kg monkeys. Especially if they have advanced weaponry.

In theory maybe. In actual life, the 800-pound gorilla is beating the shit out of monkeys, invades their villages, pushes them diplomatically, installs his lackey-monkeys in power in their jungles, and steals their resources. And he counts any nick or scratch on his body (inflicted by the monkeys tiny hands) as worthy of the lives of 10,000 monkeys -- which he considers almost subhuman and even talks openly of "bombi…

If you look at what happens in the jungles, all this was happening before the colonial powers came in, and is still happening when they left. So, without going too much into appropriateness of calling these people "monkeys", I'd suggest maybe the gorilla is not the biggest problem they face.

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Well, the nuclear industry disagrees with you. According to their experts, a nuclear Iran is a good idea. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Shah_of_Iran_building_two_...

It's funny how oil was running out in the 70s and still running out 40 years later. I'd imagine it will be running out pretty much the same way in 40 years, and 40 years after that. Besides that, that Iran doesn't exist anymore.

>I'd imagine it will be running out pretty much the same way in 40 years, and 40 years after that.

It will run out, though. The only questions are when, and what the contingencies will be once it does.

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