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Navy sailors have radiation sickness after Japan rescue

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Re: Navy sailors have radiation sickness after Japan rescue

#41
"Tokyo Electric Power also knew that radioactivity was leaking at a rate of 400 tons a day into the North Pacific, according to the lawsuit and Japanese officials."

I'm sorry, what? What does that even mean? 400 tons of.. Uranium? Water? Pure radioactive essence?

This article is shocking on many levels, but the lack of journalistic standards is appalling.

Re: Navy sailors have radiation sickness after Japan rescue

#43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They could have sidestepped the whole issue with a simple reverse-osmosis water filter. Somehow I get the impression that they did not think the ABC (edit: CBRN) thing through.

A "simple" reverse-osmosis system? A Nimitz class carrier can produce somewhere in the neighborhood of 400,000 gallons of desalinated (potable) water a day. Desalination is very energy intensive, but energy is something that a nuclear powered carrier has plenty of. There are obviously some consumables involved, but it's mostly just energy, and lots of it. RO, on the other hand, requires a lot of high quality, small p…

It seems like distillation should anyway be leaving behind a great deal of the contamination. I guess that is not sufficient for radioactive contamination, but direct exposure seems likely to be the bigger problem in this situation.

(It also seems to be a possibility that they were using (contaminated) seawater for decontamination procedures, but that is hard find reasonable information about)

Re: Navy sailors have radiation sickness after Japan rescue

#44
post #39
post #23

"The levels were incredibly dangerous and at one point, the radiation in the air measured 300 times higher than what was considered safe, Sebourn told The Post." This doesn't mean anything, its technobabble. How many REM or mSv total exposure? "I said something complicated and science-y sounding, so you are supposed to be scared right now". The biggest misfortune is they may even accidentally be correct, just complet…

Amazing how you think your claim is better informed than those from a primary source. You're right, the mystery solvent must have been it.

You can't argue with some people, perhaps like the original poster.

Even if figures and readings are produced, some will talk about bananas, flying in an aeroplane, and background radiation.

The biggest joke of all has been how the "safety limits" of different types of radiation were all magically raised after Fukushima.

Re: Navy sailors have radiation sickness after Japan rescue

#45
post #41

"Tokyo Electric Power also knew that radioactivity was leaking at a rate of 400 tons a day into the North Pacific, according to the lawsuit and Japanese officials." I'm sorry, what? What does that even mean? 400 tons of.. Uranium? Water? Pure radioactive essence? This article is shocking on many levels, but the lack of journalistic standards is appalling.

We're talking about the NY Post! It would be more surprising if it exhibited any standards at all.

Re: Navy sailors have radiation sickness after Japan rescue

#46
post #37

A Geiger counter is a simple, inexpensive device, and several should be present at all significant military installations and turned on at all times. Why wasn't that the case here?

It was. The Reagan is nuclear-powered and is capable of carrying nuclear missiles (and quite possibly was at the time). Unless Navy planning has entirely rotted away, that ship was plastered with radiation detectors, crewed with people trained for nuke decon, equipped with NBC (nuclear/bioweapon/chemical weapon) protection suits, and supplied with potassium iodide tablets for thyroid protection.

Re: Navy sailors have radiation sickness after Japan rescue

#48
post #37

A Geiger counter is a simple, inexpensive device, and several should be present at all significant military installations and turned on at all times. Why wasn't that the case here?

It was. The Reagan is nuclear-powered and is capable of carrying nuclear missiles (and quite possibly was at the time). Unless Navy planning has entirely rotted away, that ship was plastered with radiation detectors, crewed with people trained for nuke decon, equipped with NBC (nuclear/bioweapon/chemical weapon) protection suits, and supplied with potassium iodide tablets for thyroid protection.

Then what really happened here?

Re: Navy sailors have radiation sickness after Japan rescue

#49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> you have chance 1 in 1000-2000 that you'll die next year. You have a 1000-2000 chance that you'll die when you are no longer an infant but still young. Your chances of dying next year go up as your get older. If you had only 1 chance in 1000 to die each year that would mean that people would live to be 1000 years old on average. A good estimate of human mortality rates can be calculated from Gompertz law: http://fo…

> If you had only 1 chance in 1000 to die each year that would mean that people would live to be 1000 years old on average. Actually it means your chances of living to be 1000 would be 37%. 0.999 ^ 1000 = .37

You are both correct. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exponential_distribution

Re: Navy sailors have radiation sickness after Japan rescue

#50

The nuclear apologists are out in full force today. I love how you guys, mostly computer programmers, are so much more informed than experts in nearly every other field of science existing. It must be amazing to be that smart.

As long as you're going to use amorphous group affiliations to create an ad-hominem attack, let me do the same: "AnotherDesigner"
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