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I'm excited by the insight and modesty of this guy. I will see to it that he gets a mighty prize. It's great to see how open software can leverage the power of the community to find weak spots and become stronger.
It hasn't been so long since the last snake oil peddlers had their roasting -- I forget the name, it was some cutesy web-browser "secure" chat thing.
It's cool to report debunkings, but if it weren't for HN, I (and most others?) never would have even seen these products in the first place.
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Why would you post such an inane one-liner like that? Jimmytucson made a very good point, which is that the very intelligent Telegram authors tried really hard to make a solid product, made a huge gamble that didn't quite pay off like they wanted, and that all we see now are the smug, told-you-so vultures swooping in to pat themselves on the back for being oh so much smarter than the stupid crypto guys.
No one cares that you tried really hard before failing, doubly so with security products.
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No one cares that you tried really hard before failing, doubly so with security products.
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We got Gandi over here posting on HN.
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RIP Telegram (2013-2013). omg made me lol super hard
I see you've only been here for 33 days so I'll lend you a hand. This is HN, and we don't make posts like that.
1) Every Bitcoin thread
2) Every NSA/Snowden thread
Source (cough): I've been around for 6.3 years, am in the top 40 users in terms of net karma, and am actually very frustrated with the unfortunate turn the community has taken in the past 12-18 months. And am considering leaving, which makes me sad.
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I see you've only been here for 33 days so I'll lend you a hand. This is HN, and we don't make posts like that.
Counterexamples: 1) Every Bitcoin thread 2) Every NSA/Snowden thread Source (cough): I've been around for 6.3 years, am in the top 40 users in terms of net karma, and am actually very frustrated with the unfortunate turn the community has taken in the past 12-18 months. And am considering leaving, which makes me sad.
There's a lesson here. I genuinely don't mean to sound smug, but -- remember how confident the Telegram guys were? Remember how sure they were that their protocol would be able to resist the eavesdropping efforts of the NSA and whatever other nefarious interlopers may come along? Remember how they said they'd been working on it for years, and presumably expected for it to last many more years? Remember how that was,…
Did you write the encryption algorithm? Did you have the balls to put 200 grand on the table for anyone who could break it? Did you rise to the challenge and claim the cash? No, you just stood on the sideline and waited for somebody to fail so you could come down off your branch and peck at the corpse. Indeed, there is a lesson here. Don't expect anybody to pat you on the back when you put it all on black and win. Be…
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Counterexamples: 1) Every Bitcoin thread 2) Every NSA/Snowden thread Source (cough): I've been around for 6.3 years, am in the top 40 users in terms of net karma, and am actually very frustrated with the unfortunate turn the community has taken in the past 12-18 months. And am considering leaving, which makes me sad.
Not sure what either of those two topics has to do with this thread..
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Are you suffering from testosterone poisoning or something?
Why would you post such an inane one-liner like that? Jimmytucson made a very good point, which is that the very intelligent Telegram authors tried really hard to make a solid product, made a huge gamble that didn't quite pay off like they wanted, and that all we see now are the smug, told-you-so vultures swooping in to pat themselves on the back for being oh so much smarter than the stupid crypto guys.
Note: This is not so much in response to thom's comment, but rather the criticism of jimmytucson's comment (which actually has some substance).
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I see you've only been here for 33 days so I'll lend you a hand. This is HN, and we don't make posts like that.
Counterexamples: 1) Every Bitcoin thread 2) Every NSA/Snowden thread Source (cough): I've been around for 6.3 years, am in the top 40 users in terms of net karma, and am actually very frustrated with the unfortunate turn the community has taken in the past 12-18 months. And am considering leaving, which makes me sad.