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Re: Google Bus blocked, window smashed in West Oakland

#131
As usual, the irony is at an all time high.

> "While they took their seats, several people unfurled two giant banners reading “TECHIES: Your World Is Not Welcome Here” and “FUCK OFF GOOGLE.”

People holding banners that were laser printed with materials synthesized by complex machines. People with cell phones tucked away in their pockets. People who have used Google a million times.

Re: Google Bus blocked, window smashed in West Oakland

#132

West Oakland is a traditionally black neighborhood that surrounds the Port of Oakland. It has been heavily gentrified, developed, and restructured over the past three decades. Now there is an upper class enclave that has been established near the West Oakland BART station, in Jack London, and in the city of Emeryville. Oh fuck you and your dreadlocks. There are only two photos on that page, so I don't definitively kn…

I've gotten into some 'debates' with friends on facebook who are are in the 'anarchist/burner/hipster' persuasion. And It's mostly scape-goating programmers for rents going up. But I do think the Startup community in particular could do a better job interacting with the communities we live in. Especially as more and more people jump on the startup bandwagon and don't really understand the hacker/nerd ethos of protect…

I think the rent issue is definitely real, but isn't the fault of techies. It's the fault of several interacting factors:

(1) Anti-development mentality on the part of city councils, zoning boards, etc.

(2) Geographic containment of the area.

(3) Shitty public transit and overcrowded roads.

(4) Foreign investors driving up the price of RE.

... in roughly that order.

#1 is largely the fault of this same stereotypical bunch of braindead trustafarian hippies, since they tend to oppose building pretty much anything because it destroys the Earth, man. In so doing they play their role in the gentrification cycle, constraining supply to drive up rents and drive out the genuinely underprivileged.

As I said elsewhere: fuck these people.

Re: Google Bus blocked, window smashed in West Oakland

#133

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's as if you are auditioning for the Glenn Beck show. That's probably where you belong edit: Since when is political vitriol acceptable for HN? If I wanted to hear bullshit political rants with gems like "traditional blacks" or "fuck you and your dreadlocks", then I'd turn on Fox News or MSNBC. Seriously, traditional blacks with weasely scare quotes? That comment could not be less informative, disingenuous, or fals…

Do you understand that you are attacking some of your most powerful political allies, and that it is not helpful to solving the systemic issues contributing to poverty?

Interestingly, top-earners have been saying the same for decades when confronted with tax increases, all while having enjoyed an ever increasing share of the wealth pie. Food for thought.

Re: Google Bus blocked, window smashed in West Oakland

#134
post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Exactly. They want a free lunch off the hard work of others. Otherwise they would have been on their way to work this morning, not vandalizing a bus.

Please don't marginalized the un/underemployed. There is unemployment in the US, and not everyone can or should be an entrepeneur. (Heck, plenty of us wealthy tech workers would not succeed as entrepeneurs). The noblesse oblige is to demonstrate leadership by creating opportunities for honest workers. Edit for clarity: null_ptr implied that the alternative to this behavior is "going to work". Other possibilities are…

No sympathy for thugs and vandals. People who smash bus windows Friday morning have no place in civilized society. This has nothing to do with their employment situation. Why don't they go to the public library and learn some relevant skills? Learning opportunities that actually lead to well paid jobs are more accessible than ever. If you have the time to smash a bus window you have the time to learn skills that will uplift your spirit and place in this world.

Re: Google Bus blocked, window smashed in West Oakland

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Gotta love “TECHIES: Your World Is Not Welcome Here” I find it hard to sympathize with a bunch of lazy thugs who do nothing to improve their situation. Engineering and white collar jobs in general have always paid well. Industries who are in demand even more so, and for just reason. Did similar protests happen in Detroit 50 years ago during the auto boom? Did unskilled rubes that do nothing all day put up banners say…

>> Did unskilled rubes that do nothing all day put up banners saying "Auto boys not welcome"? 'Auto boys' are/were unskilled rubes. Whites weren't holding up signs saying 'blacks not welcome'. They just left. It was 50 years ago, after all. edit: They were, up to a point.

http://dneiwert.blogspot.com/2008/01/how-to-out-sundown-town...

The racial distribution of the US is neither an accident or the result of voluntary actions by individuals.

Re: Google Bus blocked, window smashed in West Oakland

#137

West Oakland is a traditionally black neighborhood that surrounds the Port of Oakland. It has been heavily gentrified, developed, and restructured over the past three decades. Now there is an upper class enclave that has been established near the West Oakland BART station, in Jack London, and in the city of Emeryville. Oh fuck you and your dreadlocks. There are only two photos on that page, so I don't definitively kn…

These are Burning Man hippies, self-styled artists, people who graduated from great schools with useless majors, and the usual constituent of the Bay Area's overprivileged poverty tourists: 20-30 y/o white kids from middle class families. Oh, get off it, man. All that we "know" about the perpetrators at this point is that they were apparently (1) young and (2) non-black. As to the rest the attributes you impute to th…

a) I have no objection to this phrase and will edit my comment thus.

b) I'm reacting to the race card being employed by people who are tokenizing and mascotifying (to coin phrase) the same people who they themselves pushed out!

Re: Google Bus blocked, window smashed in West Oakland

#138
post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Exactly. They want a free lunch off the hard work of others. Otherwise they would have been on their way to work this morning, not vandalizing a bus.

Please don't marginalized the un/underemployed. There is unemployment in the US, and not everyone can or should be an entrepeneur. (Heck, plenty of us wealthy tech workers would not succeed as entrepeneurs). The noblesse oblige is to demonstrate leadership by creating opportunities for honest workers. Edit for clarity: null_ptr implied that the alternative to this behavior is "going to work". Other possibilities are…

The guy (or gal) above you is not marginalizing unemployment. They are trivializing the new leisure class as talked about by Thorstein Veblen. Except instead of conspicuous consumption, they are engaging in poverty tourism. Don't be fooled by these folks, they have well funded trust funds and have never worked a day in their life. Rather than buying a new car to inspire their neighbor's envy, they are trying to build credibility around their "worldliness". However, they are doing very little to actively improve the situation of those people actually struggling and disenfranchised.

Re: Google Bus blocked, window smashed in West Oakland

#140

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The problem is that a big corporation like Google gives less than it takes as of now, tax wise, and guarantees their employees a standard of living out of reach for most americans now, or the rest of the world for that matter. A standard of living paid for, in part, by the very same taxes they manage to avoid, along with several other big corporations. Not to mention they are no stranger to the US government, and pro…

So... attacking the individual workers in this corporation sends the right message... how? If you want to attack Google over Google's practices, be my guest. But attacking commuters on a bus? What the hell? Heck, the bus doesn't even seem like it was owned by Google. It is one thing to protest unethical Corporate Practices, unfair tax rules that they're abusing, etc. etc. But its another thing entirely to attack the…

Despite what they say, they are not upset at the corporation. The corporation is faceless and their reaction is very emotional driven with little rational thought. Hell, most of these 'professional protesters' probably have Android or Apple phones.

They actually hate the people. Why? Because they think that they are different and this is a form of entertainment for them.

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