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Re: Go away Cameron – Bypass UK's porn filter

#141
Should probably stop calling it "Porn Filter" it's kind of playing in to it.

Customer: "Hi, I can't access some websites"

ISP: "Oh, we see you have the PORN FITLER enabled. You mean YOU WANT TO WATCH PORN YOU PERVERT?"

Customer: "Uhm, never mind."

Let's be honest, the biggest issue with this isn't that it's harder to look at tits online, so let's not trivialise it and stigmatise it as such.

Re: Go away Cameron – Bypass UK's porn filter

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How do we incentivize people to fight back against every single law that could potentially harm privacy or force censorship? The people making these laws have every bit of incentive to do so, while the regular people have limited willpower, limited resources and limited time. Sure we can pull off another SOPA blackout, but I don't think we can do it consistently. They'll keep proposing harmful laws and we can't stop…

You can't. There was some guy on here yesterday arguing "your right to privacy is less important than protecting my children". Hello, parental responsibility? But something funny happens in the minds of (some, but not all) new parents and they want to see the world remade into a giant daycare centre. It doesn't occur to them that their kids will grow up and they'll find themselves in a world they don't want to live i…

That's crazy. I have two young children, and a mother who often borders, in my opinion, on overprotective. I grew up just fine with privacy and freedom and I would like my children to experience the same.

Re: Go away Cameron – Bypass UK's porn filter

#143

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There's a UK ISP called Andrews and Arnold that will give you a filter free experience with the caveat that you have to filter your own network, but they are not really a home ISP as such.

Presumably they still block the sites like ThePirateBay for which court orders have been made? I asked this last time A&A were mentioned, still haven't found an answer, just curious?

Those court orders tend only to be served against the larger consumer ISPs.

Re: Go away Cameron – Bypass UK's porn filter

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And whom exactly would have been pursued? The directors of the defunct company who had variously jumped the country or disappeared? Or us, for being in possession of such data? Answer: Us. Because Kafka runs the criminal justice system. Bringing crimes to the attention of the police is just not worth the risk.

> Answer: Us. Because Kafka runs the criminal justice system. Bringing crimes to the attention of the police is just not worth the risk. Kafka does not run the criminal justice system. Your actions are disgraceful.

His spirit quite certainly does. I would assume that you've never attempted to report a crime in the UK. It's a fruitless endeavour that typically results in the police threatening the reporter, or simply declaring it a civil matter in which they have no interest.

Re: Go away Cameron – Bypass UK's porn filter

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> the EU convention lists internet access as a human right. They're not stopping you from accessing the internet, they're essentially just giving people access to filtering software.

They didn't have hosts files in the UK before?

I don't understand your point. Do you think I was claiming this was the first time people have had access to filtering software?

Re: Go away Cameron – Bypass UK's porn filter

#146
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> the EU convention lists internet access as a human right. They're not stopping you from accessing the internet, they're essentially just giving people access to filtering software.

I think the dystopian worry isn't that they're giving individuals access to filtering software. That would be a worthy goal. The real worry is that this system is Government controlled and built into everyone's internet connection. Personally, I'm expecting it to soon have three settings, not two: a) Family friendly browsing (opt-in) b) Access to more adult sites (opt-out) c) Blocking of whatever the government deems…

> The real worry is that this system is Government controlled

No it isn't. It's done, individually, by the ISPs. They're not all using the same software either.

> and built into everyone's internet connection.

Not everyones.

> This is why a lot of people don't like it: because we're building the machinery of censorship "for the sake of the children."

I'm fully aware of that, I'm just tired of hearing the same incorrect arguments. It only hurts a side if they lie or don't know what they are talking about.

Re: Go away Cameron – Bypass UK's porn filter

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> Answer: Us. Because Kafka runs the criminal justice system. Bringing crimes to the attention of the police is just not worth the risk. Kafka does not run the criminal justice system. Your actions are disgraceful.

His spirit quite certainly does. I would assume that you've never attempted to report a crime in the UK. It's a fruitless endeavour that typically results in the police threatening the reporter, or simply declaring it a civil matter in which they have no interest.

Your experience is not universal. Out of myself and many young friends, there are few bad dealings with Police and mostly positive. Including people convicted and sentenced.

Re: Go away Cameron – Bypass UK's porn filter

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As much as this is a brilliant idea (opting out could possibly be recorded) I think the general consensus of the government right now needs to change, I seem to recall a hacker game from years ago (maybe 'Hacker Evolution') which described in it's prologue: "The world has been divided; governments censor and restrict access to the internet that was, hackers and technologists moved away from traditional means of commu…

How do we incentivize people to fight back against every single law that could potentially harm privacy or force censorship? The people making these laws have every bit of incentive to do so, while the regular people have limited willpower, limited resources and limited time. Sure we can pull off another SOPA blackout, but I don't think we can do it consistently. They'll keep proposing harmful laws and we can't stop…

> these laws

What laws? Most people seem to be so horrendously misinformed it's a wonder they have the audacity to make such wide reaching claims.

Re: Go away Cameron – Bypass UK's porn filter

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I doubt it. Or I'm going to have some trouble. I reckon a large proportion of people will opt out and I wouldn't be surprised if they try to remove the opt out option in the future.

Maybe not the sex offenders list, but there will be a list and it will likely be leaked in all or part.

'Maybe'? The fact you don't know it's VSOR and not 'the sex offenders list' indicates you probably don't have a clue what you're talking about.

Re: Go away Cameron – Bypass UK's porn filter

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His spirit quite certainly does. I would assume that you've never attempted to report a crime in the UK. It's a fruitless endeavour that typically results in the police threatening the reporter, or simply declaring it a civil matter in which they have no interest.

Your experience is not universal. Out of myself and many young friends, there are few bad dealings with Police and mostly positive. Including people convicted and sentenced.

Fair enough. My experiences have left me very cop-shy.

In 2007 I had removers sho, rather than taking my belongings from A to B, took them from A to an auction house. The police started with a stance of "it's a civil matter" and ended with a stance of "we will prosecute you for wasting police time".

In 2002 my girlfriend at the time was receiving unsettling, perverse text messages from an unknown number. When I responded in an equally threatening tone, I had a call the next morning from East Kolbride police for sending a threatening communication to a police officer.

In 1996, I was arrested for being outside in the snow, aged 13. I was kept in a holding cell and denied food, water, or the means to contact my parents.

I have a very, very low opinion of the efficacy of the current application of the rule of law.

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