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Re: Here is the robots.txt of Google

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Not like anyone writing a spider has to obey the robots.txt file.

Sure, and their IP will be blocked by Google some time around the 10th request.

Next time you're looking at a PC infected with malware have a look at the network traffic using a sniffer, chances are pretty good that you'll see searches to google for the weirdest of terms. Apparently this is to get around the limitation that you mention. I'm assuming the results of such searches will be 'mailed home' through some kind of dead-drop.

Re: Here is the robots.txt of Google

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We actually have a surprising number of customers come to us at 80legs wanting to crawl google search results. I don't think most of them are trying to reverse engineer google or anything like that. Most probably just want a fast way to find relevant topics to crawl.

They are disappointed when they learn we obey robots.txt, so we have them manually do searches to pull out seed lists for their 80legs crawls. It's a pain, but there's not really a way around it within the rules.

Re: Here is the robots.txt of Google

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Sure, and their IP will be blocked by Google some time around the 10th request.

Next time you're looking at a PC infected with malware have a look at the network traffic using a sniffer, chances are pretty good that you'll see searches to google for the weirdest of terms. Apparently this is to get around the limitation that you mention. I'm assuming the results of such searches will be 'mailed home' through some kind of dead-drop.

Sure, but responding to the parent, that's why people don't crawl Google, not the Robots.txt.

And incidentally, some of those searches are to find forms that it can stuff links into. My sites are constantly getting hit by botnets searching for Drupal comment forms. Luckily it uses a quirky URL format that's easy for mod_security to block.

Re: Here is the robots.txt of Google

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I always figured that the company that spiders everybody elses content should have a more relaxed policy towards being spidered itself. After all, google is datamining the web on an ongoing basis, in return it should willingly consent to being mined in return.

Yes, but... For the most part "Google" is a condensed version of the web. In theory, you could "spider" a single site (google.com) and build your own search database without having to go out and crawl the web at large. It's an odd paradox, but I think one search site crawling another search site is not a good idea. And there is probably an infinite spider loop hiding in that process somewhere.

Though you could end up with a load of URLs, titles, and a summary text, crawling google won't really get you to the important data in building a search engine. No follow-on links, only a subset of the text, no referrals, etc.

Love the 'paradox' of the infinite spider loop, hadn't considered that before.

Re: Here is the robots.txt of Google

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, but... For the most part "Google" is a condensed version of the web. In theory, you could "spider" a single site (google.com) and build your own search database without having to go out and crawl the web at large. It's an odd paradox, but I think one search site crawling another search site is not a good idea. And there is probably an infinite spider loop hiding in that process somewhere.

Though you could end up with a load of URLs, titles, and a summary text, crawling google won't really get you to the important data in building a search engine. No follow-on links, only a subset of the text, no referrals, etc. Love the 'paradox' of the infinite spider loop, hadn't considered that before.

Crawling groups would be interesting. What other archives of usenet are there?
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