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Re: Introducing the Google Chrome OS

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bjelkeman-again wrote: post #107
trickjarrett wrote: post #106

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I concur. I've become more and more aware of the looming Google benevolent giant, but one day that giant's going to get angry and by that point it may be too late. That being said, I still use Gmail, Google Docs, Google Reader, Analytics, and other services. So I'm not exactly avoiding the apocalypse here.

What I think is interesting is that having a hard time choosing something other than Windows may have been quite benevolent in comparison with a Google-situation which turns ugly. What if there is an organisation that has all your email, all your documents, all your appointments and all your conversations and can follow the majority of your surfing via ads. What if this resource suddenly is too tempting to keep hands…

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Re: Introducing the Google Chrome OS

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bjelkeman-again wrote: post #107
trickjarrett wrote: post #106

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I concur. I've become more and more aware of the looming Google benevolent giant, but one day that giant's going to get angry and by that point it may be too late. That being said, I still use Gmail, Google Docs, Google Reader, Analytics, and other services. So I'm not exactly avoiding the apocalypse here.

What I think is interesting is that having a hard time choosing something other than Windows may have been quite benevolent in comparison with a Google-situation which turns ugly. What if there is an organisation that has all your email, all your documents, all your appointments and all your conversations and can follow the majority of your surfing via ads. What if this resource suddenly is too tempting to keep hands…

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Re: Introducing the Google Chrome OS

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Post by koepked »

bjelkeman-again wrote: post #107
trickjarrett wrote: post #106

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I concur. I've become more and more aware of the looming Google benevolent giant, but one day that giant's going to get angry and by that point it may be too late. That being said, I still use Gmail, Google Docs, Google Reader, Analytics, and other services. So I'm not exactly avoiding the apocalypse here.

What I think is interesting is that having a hard time choosing something other than Windows may have been quite benevolent in comparison with a Google-situation which turns ugly. What if there is an organisation that has all your email, all your documents, all your appointments and all your conversations and can follow the majority of your surfing via ads. What if this resource suddenly is too tempting to keep hands…

Yes! Thank you for capturing more of what I could feel in my gut, but could not bring to words when composing my comment.

I don't think that anyone at Google set out to be evil. But power corrupts and the legal systems and governments have not exactly struck up a fight for privacy for the individual the last couple of years.

I also see scenarios where Google never becomes corrupted by power, but by government mandate a la Patriot Act is forced to reveal content. I don't like that there appear to be many plausible ways where the whole situation could end up generally bad.

Re: Introducing the Google Chrome OS

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Post by cmars232 »

mcav wrote: post #2

Key Data Point: > The software architecture is simple — Google Chrome running within a new windowing system on top of a Linux kernel.

Much anticipating that "new windowing system". If you wonder why Linux has never claimed the desktop, look no further than X.

Re: Introducing the Google Chrome OS

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Post by yankeeracer73 »

I don't see that anyone has mentioned Apple in any of this. They certainly aren't just going to roll over and let Google take this entire space. They will launch a netbook at some point with the iPhone OS, some storage, the app store to get everything you want, a superior user experience and industrial design, and oh yeah, the browser to also run all these other apps...And it will be this kind of weird hybrid old model vs. new all over again.

Re: Introducing the Google Chrome OS

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Post by trickjarrett »

koepked wrote: post #113
bjelkeman-again wrote: post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What I think is interesting is that having a hard time choosing something other than Windows may have been quite benevolent in comparison with a Google-situation which turns ugly. What if there is an organisation that has all your email, all your documents, all your appointments and all your conversations and can follow the majority of your surfing via ads. What if this resource suddenly is too tempting to keep hands…

Yes! Thank you for capturing more of what I could feel in my gut, but could not bring to words when composing my comment. I don't think that anyone at Google set out to be evil. But power corrupts and the legal systems and governments have not exactly struck up a fight for privacy for the individual the last couple of years. I also see scenarios where Google never becomes corrupted by power, but by government mandate…

Indeed Google may never turn to the dark side, but to have that much information under one corporate entity's control is terrifying to say the least.

Unfortunately in the digital age, it is hard to achieve any semblance true security for your personal information without acting on what lay-people perceive as paranoia.

Re: Introducing the Google Chrome OS

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Post by bendotc »

cmars232 wrote: post #114
mcav wrote: post #2

Key Data Point: > The software architecture is simple — Google Chrome running within a new windowing system on top of a Linux kernel.

Much anticipating that "new windowing system". If you wonder why Linux has never claimed the desktop, look no further than X.

I'd be interested in hearing your reasoning on that one. Lots of people complain about X in various ways, and while a couple years ago I would've agreed, these days, I'm no longer entering my monitor's vertical refresh rate manually, and X is pretty transparent to me.

And on the up side, it's nice to be able to run a GUI app remotely, though I'll agree that that's not winning over too many desktop users.

Re: Introducing the Google Chrome OS

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Post by roc »

ZeroGravitas wrote: post #79
Micand wrote: post #67

If ARM and x86 are targeted, this means no Flash (not surprising, given how poorly it runs on Linux), which presumably means YouTube will be operating in full-on HTML 5 video mode by the time these devices launch. If netbooks continue their meteoric ascent, and if Chrome OS grabs a significant share of the market, we may finally see the realization of the mythical Year of Linux On the Desktop. The ironic aspect, of c…

Adobe are working on full Flash 10 for ARM-based linux on netbooks and smartphone platforms, due for next year. Whether Google wants or needs it is another question.

Given the way that Flash performs on OSX I don't see any reason to think their ARM port will be at all acceptable.

Re: Introducing the Google Chrome OS

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Post by skorgu »

Micand wrote: post #67

If ARM and x86 are targeted, this means no Flash (not surprising, given how poorly it runs on Linux), which presumably means YouTube will be operating in full-on HTML 5 video mode by the time these devices launch. If netbooks continue their meteoric ascent, and if Chrome OS grabs a significant share of the market, we may finally see the realization of the mythical Year of Linux On the Desktop. The ironic aspect, of c…

Linux making it to the desktop by essentially ignoring the Desktop paradigm? Oh the irony.
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