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My Experience in the Educational Apps Market – 2013 report

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Re: My Experience in the Educational Apps Market – 2013 report

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Thank you for the post, Pierre. It is very rare such figures appear for to be viewed by average Joe. As one can see the consumer market is very much biased towards the US. Is it because of marketing or because EU markets are so small? Is Russia relevant as an app market?

If you put all EU markets together I think you've got something as big as the US (although one would need some figures to prove that). Now the issue is that you need to market in each country and in a different language. In addition, it is very complex to localize an if you do a literacy app - language, culture, way of learning, testing with teacher, etc... I don't know the size of the Russia market but I think it is the 10th if I remember well just after France (also to check on reports like Distimo's)

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post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

yes it is still an open question for me. There are many big brands that don't do this - why ? I think everybody is experimenting in kids'app world - it's not clear as in games where (consumable) IAP are very profitable.

I think it's mostly because it's harder to market two apps than one. From my experience (I'm also developing educational apps for kids), what makes an indie iOS app a success is more and more determined by Apple's decision to feature it, and going up in rankings. With two apps, it'll be twice harder to get in the top 10, and you'll have to choose between one of them to be featured.

I'm wondering whether Apple will ever offer either: 1] a dedicated education app store, invisible to non-volume purchasers. 2] a mechanism for allowing volume purchases of in-app content.

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Let me know if you have questions (I'm the lucky indie dev who wrote the post)

Two of your apps mention Montessori by name, which makes me wonder how often you are criticized for using her name in vain?

My wife is a Montessori teacher and would flip her shit if a parent ever substituted the real montessori numbers/letters (usually sand paper letters) for an app. Montessori would've surely been incredibly against an app for children young enough to learn anything from sand paper letters.

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post #51

Thank you for the post, Pierre. It is very rare such figures appear for to be viewed by average Joe. As one can see the consumer market is very much biased towards the US. Is it because of marketing or because EU markets are so small? Is Russia relevant as an app market?

If you put all EU markets together I think you've got something as big as the US (although one would need some figures to prove that). Now the issue is that you need to market in each country and in a different language. In addition, it is very complex to localize an if you do a literacy app - language, culture, way of learning, testing with teacher, etc... I don't know the size of the Russia market but I think it is…

Thank you very much. If you are interested to localise for Russia, let me know.

Re: My Experience in the Educational Apps Market – 2013 report

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Hey Pierre, Thank you for this post. First, because I use your apps with my kids and they love them. Almost certainly one of the reasons your applications sell is because they are very good. It was recommended to me by a relative who is a teacher and I know she recommends it to others. These types of applications are the reason I purchased a tablet device: I am a very stingy person, but if a tool will engage my child…

> I'm disappointed about the Android market, I hope it improves. Based on some research that I have done, iOS revenue is about 2:1 for phone apps, with the gap closing quickly. If the app has strong international appeal, it is probably closer to parity. For tablet apps, iOS has something like a 10:1 revenue advantage. I wouldn't write off Android if the app is designed to be used on phones, but for tablet apps, it is…

So is there some way to unlock an iOS app if you give it a rating?

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post #37

Hey Pierre, Thank you for this post. First, because I use your apps with my kids and they love them. Almost certainly one of the reasons your applications sell is because they are very good. It was recommended to me by a relative who is a teacher and I know she recommends it to others. These types of applications are the reason I purchased a tablet device: I am a very stingy person, but if a tool will engage my child…

Thanks ! Yes it's not a secret that the best way to market app is word of mouth but the issue is really to get a large user base so that it works. Happy to read that you play with your kids with my apps - I'm always thinking about that when I do an app because it is very important for me.

Congratulations for you success!

Would you say that the most important reason of your success is you penetrated a relatively new market with a good product early, and it was easier to gain traction and build a large user base that you can now cross-promote your other apps?

Merci d'avoir partager l'histoire de ton succès. C'est toujours inspirant et surtout éducatif ;)

Bonne continuation!

Re: My Experience in the Educational Apps Market – 2013 report

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Hey Pierre, Thank you for this post. First, because I use your apps with my kids and they love them. Almost certainly one of the reasons your applications sell is because they are very good. It was recommended to me by a relative who is a teacher and I know she recommends it to others. These types of applications are the reason I purchased a tablet device: I am a very stingy person, but if a tool will engage my child…

> I'm disappointed about the Android market, I hope it improves. Based on some research that I have done, iOS revenue is about 2:1 for phone apps, with the gap closing quickly. If the app has strong international appeal, it is probably closer to parity. For tablet apps, iOS has something like a 10:1 revenue advantage. I wouldn't write off Android if the app is designed to be used on phones, but for tablet apps, it is…

It's more like 1.5x difference now according to Distimo:

> Apple still has the most lucrative app store, with Distimo estimating that on a typical day in November 2013, global revenues for the 200 top grossing iOS apps were more than $18m. That compares to $12m for Android's Google Play store, although the report notes that a year ago, the respective figures were $15m and $3.5m. The gap is narrowing.

http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2013/dec/18/android-io...

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post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Aren't you afraid that by posting this you are going to attract a lot of unwelcome competition?

If you'll only spend your time working on a product for some niche that no one has found, you'll end up with nothing. Competition is inevitable, so it's best to face it and never fear it.

Well I work in a niche with lots of competition, some of it strong, some not so strong. I'm not convinced that I'd want more of it though.

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post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I'm disappointed about the Android market, I hope it improves. Based on some research that I have done, iOS revenue is about 2:1 for phone apps, with the gap closing quickly. If the app has strong international appeal, it is probably closer to parity. For tablet apps, iOS has something like a 10:1 revenue advantage. I wouldn't write off Android if the app is designed to be used on phones, but for tablet apps, it is…

So is there some way to unlock an iOS app if you give it a rating?

No. But you can fake it with annoying popovers, e.g. always show the nag popup until they touch "rate it".
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