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Starting Feb 1, new apps and app updates must be optimized for iOS 7

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Re: Starting Feb 1, new apps and app updates must be optimized for iOS 7

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Post by threeseed »

rootinier wrote: post #24
jwr wrote: post #16

iOS 7 is the first Apple system where I felt royally screwed. My iPhone 4 became so slow as to be nearly unusable. Everything now takes seconds, swipes are being missed, even audio gets chopped up when I play back podcasts over bluetooth. There are two reasons for me to be angry about this: * Apple should never have released iOS 7 for iPhone 4 devices. iPhone 4 should have been listed as "unsupported". But had they d…

Wait for iOS 7.1, which should be released in the coming weeks. It fixes most of your problems and will hugely improve performance. iOS 7.1 beta 2 feels like what iOS 7 should have been from the beginning.

This is what I don't understand. Apple has been following a consistent pattern for iOS releases since the beginning.

Why are people complaining about performance before waiting until the X.1 update ?

Re: Starting Feb 1, new apps and app updates must be optimized for iOS 7

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Post by jacalata »

threeseed wrote: post #71
rootinier wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wait for iOS 7.1, which should be released in the coming weeks. It fixes most of your problems and will hugely improve performance. iOS 7.1 beta 2 feels like what iOS 7 should have been from the beginning.

This is what I don't understand. Apple has been following a consistent pattern for iOS releases since the beginning. Why are people complaining about performance before waiting until the X.1 update ?

Because apple is still spending billions of dollars, and relying on existing brainwashed users, to tell them that "it just works"?

Re: Starting Feb 1, new apps and app updates must be optimized for iOS 7

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Post by wnevets »

jwr wrote: post #16

iOS 7 is the first Apple system where I felt royally screwed. My iPhone 4 became so slow as to be nearly unusable. Everything now takes seconds, swipes are being missed, even audio gets chopped up when I play back podcasts over bluetooth. There are two reasons for me to be angry about this: * Apple should never have released iOS 7 for iPhone 4 devices. iPhone 4 should have been listed as "unsupported". But had they d…

The same exact thing happened with the 3GS. Its a great ploy to force users to upgrade to the newest hardware.

Re: Starting Feb 1, new apps and app updates must be optimized for iOS 7

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Post by WoodenChair »

potatolicious wrote: post #35
jwr wrote: post #16

iOS 7 is the first Apple system where I felt royally screwed. My iPhone 4 became so slow as to be nearly unusable. Everything now takes seconds, swipes are being missed, even audio gets chopped up when I play back podcasts over bluetooth. There are two reasons for me to be angry about this: * Apple should never have released iOS 7 for iPhone 4 devices. iPhone 4 should have been listed as "unsupported". But had they d…

Agreed, with reservations. iPhone 4 itself was a grossly mis-executed product, though it wasn't obvious at the time. The core issue is that the iPhone 4's CPU and GPU performance are only marginally better than the 3GS it replaced, but it pushes 4x the number of pixels around. At the time we weren't really pushing the performance envelope, so everything appeared fine. Now we are - it's trivially easy to hit the upper…

Partially agree. Your point stands since the iPhone 4's GPU was a very marginal improvement over the iPhone 3GS's. However, the iPhone 4's CPU was significantly faster - 50% in my tests which is in line with its raw clock speed increase across the same architecture (1 GHZ Cortex A8 vs 600 MHZ Cortex A8).

Re: Starting Feb 1, new apps and app updates must be optimized for iOS 7

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Post by danabramov »

nwh wrote: post #21
jwr wrote: post #16

iOS 7 is the first Apple system where I felt royally screwed. My iPhone 4 became so slow as to be nearly unusable. Everything now takes seconds, swipes are being missed, even audio gets chopped up when I play back podcasts over bluetooth. There are two reasons for me to be angry about this: * Apple should never have released iOS 7 for iPhone 4 devices. iPhone 4 should have been listed as "unsupported". But had they d…

If it's any consolation, it's bad on an iPhone 5s too. I get constant crashes, animation glitches that need a reboot to fix, it's just unusable and there's no way back to iOS6. I've used it on an iPhone 4, and I don't know how anybody copes. It feels like my 3G was on 4.2.1.

I've been using it on 5s for two months, and I rarely if ever get a glitch. Two or three times Recents tab in Phone app crashed, but that was it.

Re: Starting Feb 1, new apps and app updates must be optimized for iOS 7

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Post by Detrus »

pilsetnieks wrote: post #43
potatolicious wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Agreed, with reservations. iPhone 4 itself was a grossly mis-executed product, though it wasn't obvious at the time. The core issue is that the iPhone 4's CPU and GPU performance are only marginally better than the 3GS it replaced, but it pushes 4x the number of pixels around. At the time we weren't really pushing the performance envelope, so everything appeared fine. Now we are - it's trivially easy to hit the upper…

Blur is off by default on the iPhone 4 already, as well as a number of other resource intensive features and effects: http://arstechnica.com/apple/2013/09/new-lease-on-life-or-de...

Yea I was wondering where the cool promised effects were. I'm a light user of the phone and iOS7 was a noticeable improvement. UI is better, idle battery life doubled. But that's my particular use case. Could be the experience of non nerd users as well.

Re: Starting Feb 1, new apps and app updates must be optimized for iOS 7

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Post by josephlord »

MBCook wrote: post #62
jwr wrote: post #16

iOS 7 is the first Apple system where I felt royally screwed. My iPhone 4 became so slow as to be nearly unusable. Everything now takes seconds, swipes are being missed, even audio gets chopped up when I play back podcasts over bluetooth. There are two reasons for me to be angry about this: * Apple should never have released iOS 7 for iPhone 4 devices. iPhone 4 should have been listed as "unsupported". But had they d…

Remember they were still selling the iPhone 4 up until the day the released the 5s and 5c. It would be very un-Apple-y for an OS to drop support for a product you were selling 2 days ago. I'm sure that's why it was done. You're probably right that the 4 didn't have the GPU to support it and that from a technical perspective it didn't make much sense.

Are you sure? The 4S was selling but I don't think that the 4 was.

Re: Starting Feb 1, new apps and app updates must be optimized for iOS 7

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Post by MBCook »

josephlord wrote: post #77
MBCook wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Remember they were still selling the iPhone 4 up until the day the released the 5s and 5c. It would be very un-Apple-y for an OS to drop support for a product you were selling 2 days ago. I'm sure that's why it was done. You're probably right that the 4 didn't have the GPU to support it and that from a technical perspective it didn't make much sense.

Are you sure? The 4S was selling but I don't think that the 4 was.

The iPhone 5 was the newest, at $200. The 4s was the 'one year back' and was $99. The lowest end was the iPhone 4, which was free on contract.

I found an article on CNet from March 21st that mentioned the deal:

http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57575621-94/should-i-take-t...

Re: Starting Feb 1, new apps and app updates must be optimized for iOS 7

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Post by lostlogin »

dak1 wrote: post #28
jwr wrote: post #16

iOS 7 is the first Apple system where I felt royally screwed. My iPhone 4 became so slow as to be nearly unusable. Everything now takes seconds, swipes are being missed, even audio gets chopped up when I play back podcasts over bluetooth. There are two reasons for me to be angry about this: * Apple should never have released iOS 7 for iPhone 4 devices. iPhone 4 should have been listed as "unsupported". But had they d…

As an iPhone 4 owner and longtime Apple owner (owned a Mac since 1988 when I was 5 years old and typing this on a 15" rMBP) I wholeheartedly agree. It's really beyond shocking how badly the iPhone 4 works with iOS7 as compared to iOS6. I'm not sure it can really be adequately explained - you just have to try it for yourself. Even switching to the camera from the lock screen is nearly impossible at times. I've recentl…

I'm not a heavy app user - stock apps and one or 2 others I only. With this in mind, there was very little wrong with my ios7 experience. Sure, it wasn't as fast as I wanted, but it wasn't a particular concern. I wonder if this is a higher tolerance from me, or a difference in how our devices were working.

Re: Starting Feb 1, new apps and app updates must be optimized for iOS 7

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Post by dak1 »

lostlogin wrote: post #79
dak1 wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As an iPhone 4 owner and longtime Apple owner (owned a Mac since 1988 when I was 5 years old and typing this on a 15" rMBP) I wholeheartedly agree. It's really beyond shocking how badly the iPhone 4 works with iOS7 as compared to iOS6. I'm not sure it can really be adequately explained - you just have to try it for yourself. Even switching to the camera from the lock screen is nearly impossible at times. I've recentl…

I'm not a heavy app user - stock apps and one or 2 others I only. With this in mind, there was very little wrong with my ios7 experience. Sure, it wasn't as fast as I wanted, but it wasn't a particular concern. I wonder if this is a higher tolerance from me, or a difference in how our devices were working.

Do you have an iPhone 4? My girlfriend got an iPhone 5S and it has no performance issues in iOS 7.
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