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I Flew to Lagos and Got Beaten Up Because of a Nigerian Email Scam

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Re: I Flew to Lagos and Got Beaten Up Because of a Nigerian Email Scam

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It's simply not possible (or even preferable) to have zero secrets from your spouse. I mean, I agree it's generally preferable to be open, but I think you're exaggerating. Do you tell your spouse everything about your life?

Absolutely every single thing. There are NO secrets. When we married, we became one person. It's great, I promise :)

How long have you been married? Don't be surprised if you find yourself wanting to at least be 1.5 people as your marriage goes on.

Re: I Flew to Lagos and Got Beaten Up Because of a Nigerian Email Scam

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> I'm talking about correlations You realize that's what superstitions are made of, right? Fancy science words don't make you rational.

It is the express lack of correlation that makes up a superstition, so the opposite of what you're saying is true. I wasn't aware that "correlation" is a fancy science word, I guess it depends on your personal background.

> It is the express lack of correlation that makes up a superstition, so the opposite of what you're saying is true.

Superstitions are generally formed when two things are correlated, but the causative variable fails to be correctly isolated, resulting in the mistaken impression that one event causes another despite being either independent or actually dependent on a third variable.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Correlation_and_dependence

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illusory_correlation

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superstition

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Correlation_does_not_imply_caus...

Re: I Flew to Lagos and Got Beaten Up Because of a Nigerian Email Scam

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"I’m superstitious, so one night I told myself, All right, if I win a game of hearts with less than 15 points, I’ll do it. I’d never scored that low in my life, so when I landed at 11 points, I thought it was a sign and decided to buy a ticket." There's your problem right there. People like this are prone to other irrational thinking. I would bet that the vast majority of people who fall for this stuff are also deepl…

This strategy is not in itself necessarily irrational - and maybe the opposite.

Being able to implement mixed strategies is actually a game theoretic requirement for rationality.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strategy_%28game_theory%29#Pur...

Re: I Flew to Lagos and Got Beaten Up Because of a Nigerian Email Scam

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"I’m superstitious, so one night I told myself, All right, if I win a game of hearts with less than 15 points, I’ll do it. I’d never scored that low in my life, so when I landed at 11 points, I thought it was a sign and decided to buy a ticket." There's your problem right there. People like this are prone to other irrational thinking. I would bet that the vast majority of people who fall for this stuff are also deepl…

You know there's a difference between being religious and asking Hearts game to tell you if you should participate in the 419 scam? Most religions actually frown very hard of those kind of things. For Avraamic religions, there's a direct prohibition of such practices in Leviticus 19:26.

Most religions frown on bottomless greed and exploiting and persecuting the poor instead of helping them, but look at how Rush Limbaugh, leader of the Republican Party, hates the Pope for spreading the word of Jesus.

Re: I Flew to Lagos and Got Beaten Up Because of a Nigerian Email Scam

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"I’m superstitious, so one night I told myself, All right, if I win a game of hearts with less than 15 points, I’ll do it. I’d never scored that low in my life, so when I landed at 11 points, I thought it was a sign and decided to buy a ticket." There's your problem right there. People like this are prone to other irrational thinking. I would bet that the vast majority of people who fall for this stuff are also deepl…

You know there's a difference between being religious and asking Hearts game to tell you if you should participate in the 419 scam? Most religions actually frown very hard of those kind of things. For Avraamic religions, there's a direct prohibition of such practices in Leviticus 19:26.

Of course they look down upon it, they're supposed to be the source for your signs.

"I'll pray on it" and "I'll talk to the Father" are really no different than what happened here.

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Most religions frown on other religions, too.

I really can't understand why you chose to answer my comment with this. I pointed out pretty clearly that a practice of homebrewn divination, in which the hero of the article engaged, is not "religious" and actually is explicitly forbidden by many religions. In response to that, you offer me meaningless platitude not connected to anything on the topic. What are you trying to accomplish here?

You certainly are blind to how ridiculous your own superstitious religious beliefs are, even though you can clearly see that people who don't believe your religion are wrong. Has it ever occurred to you that your religion is just as foolish as all the rest? You should stop taking yourself and your superstitions so seriously. Just because your cult has a lot of members, doesn't mean it isn't a cult.

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How is religion as superstition religious bashing? I'm talking about correlations, not morality or religious truth. The stay classy thing is overused.

You didn't say religious people were prone to superstition, you said they were prone to 'other irrational thinking'. I think there is a slight difference. You're also generalizing all religions, when in fact there are some religions which actively warn against superstition and miracles (Buddhism, for example). So I can see why someone might think your comment was ill-informed (and I say that as an atheist).

So do you actually think that climate change denial and the rejection of evolution is not correlated with religious believe, or membership in the Republican party?

Re: I Flew to Lagos and Got Beaten Up Because of a Nigerian Email Scam

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Now maybe my brand of Christianity was pretty unusually wacko (Lutherans are the real nutters right? Total extremists, rivals of those Westboro chaps really... /s) , but I am pretty sure they explicitly endorsed homebrew divination. The idea that you could "do it yourself" is actually a rather central concept to that particular brand of religion, though instead of tea leaves it used sore knees...

I have hard time believing Lutherans really go against direct word of the Bible (which is, as far as I know, according to their faith, a direct word of God) and practice divination, but I admit, I don't know too much about the details of the Lutheran faith. If I had to choose, I'd rather point at Calvinists with their predestination and signs of being among the saved, even though even there you can't really solicit t…

Lutherans, much like modern Catholics (the two seem to differ mainly in organizational layout these days, most of Martin Luther's grievances have been since corrected by the RCC..) and like most other protestants (I dare not say "all", but it probably is not far off) consult with their god. They ask their god for advice and guidance, and claim to receive responses in various forms.

You can clasp your hands and ask your god to tell you how to confront your son about that magazine you found in his backpack, or you can brew some tea and look into the tea leaves for a message from the gods. These are fundamentally the same concept, except the tea leaves method is not blessed by Christians, and presumably the clasp hands method is not blessed by whoever reads tea leaves...

Prayer is functionally indistinguishable from divination.

Divination that is whitelisted by your flavor of Christianity is called "prayer". The sorts that are not whitelisted are called "divination" or "witchcraft." This can be seen clearly within Christianity when you consider the schism between some of the more extreme flavors of Protestantism and Catholicism. I have, on more than one occasion heard protestants describe various aspects of Catholicism as witchcraft and idolatry. Most of the accusations center around the issue of saints and the Virgin Mary, and whether it is acceptable to ask them to pray on your behalf. Many[all?] protestants do not consider this to be a blessed form of divination, thus the less mellow among them consider it to be witchcraft or whatever.

Re: I Flew to Lagos and Got Beaten Up Because of a Nigerian Email Scam

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It's easy to bash the victim of a scam, but reading through this I couldn't help but feel bad for this guy. He was down on his luck and looking for a way out. He got hit up by the wrong folks at the wrong time, and taken advantage of. Let's remember to blame the thugs who beat and robbed him first and foremost.

When you're irrational and superstitious, it's easy to believe you're down on your luck, when actually it's not luck. You're down on the consequences of your own actions. Luck has nothing to do with it.

Re: I Flew to Lagos and Got Beaten Up Because of a Nigerian Email Scam

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Absolutely every single thing. There are NO secrets. When we married, we became one person. It's great, I promise :)

How long have you been married? Don't be surprised if you find yourself wanting to at least be 1.5 people as your marriage goes on.

We've been married for almost 9 years.
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