Edward Snowden leaks: NSA 'debates' amnesty
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#2In plain English, this NSA is saying:
"If we 'consider' this, it's because the most important information is still not out there, yet."
So it's basically counter-productive, unless your goal is to get the public behind the NSA in order to hang Snowden one way or the other.
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#3Snowden cannot possibly stop leaking the information. It is in journalists' hands already.
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#4Is Alexander seriously comparing this to him taking 50 hostages and then killing 10 people?
And this is the same Alexander who helps CIA kill that many people per day with his mass surveillance and "signature drone strikes" - right? Just checking to see if he's the right guy to question Snowden's morals.
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#5Is Alexander seriously comparing this to him taking 50 hostages and then killing 10 people? And this is the same Alexander who helps CIA kill that many people per day with his mass surveillance and "signature drone strikes" - right? Just checking to see if he's the right guy to question Snowden's morals.
Alexander is not killing anyone. He is a bureaucrat and this is just the kind of stuff they say.
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#6Is NSA going through 5 stages of grief (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K%C3%BCbler-Ross_model#Stages)? Reading this article seems like this is making me feel like they are at stage 3.
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#7Is Alexander seriously comparing this to him taking 50 hostages and then killing 10 people? And this is the same Alexander who helps CIA kill that many people per day with his mass surveillance and "signature drone strikes" - right? Just checking to see if he's the right guy to question Snowden's morals.
Alexander is not killing anyone. He is a bureaucrat and this is just the kind of stuff they say.
Ever seen the monty python sketch where hitler, goebbels, etc. are put on trial and their defense is, basically, "we didn't kill anyone, we only gave the orders"
Sorry, i do not mean to compare alexander to a nazi, i'm just ridiculing the idea that the head of the nsa, a general, is merely a bureaucrat.
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#8If Snowden takes the deal, then he looks like the guy they are trying to paint him to be - a traitor that can't stomach permanent exile.
If he takes the deal unconditionally, he will have accomplished nothing other than isolate the United States from the rest of the world. Laws will not change, the people will not gain control of its government's activities.
Snowden can take the deal under one condition only - and that is that the NSA stops their improper practices under the supervision of Snowden. Of course, this will never happen.
Any interest Snowden expresses in a NSA deal will only be used to discredit him.
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#9Earlier quoted context omitted.
Alexander is not killing anyone. He is a bureaucrat and this is just the kind of stuff they say.
Ever seen the monty python sketch where hitler, goebbels, etc. are put on trial and their defense is, basically, "we didn't kill anyone, we only gave the orders" Sorry, i do not mean to compare alexander to a nazi, i'm just ridiculing the idea that the head of the nsa, a general, is merely a bureaucrat.
I think that WW1 was such a mess precisely because the generals on all sides were mostly aristocratic bureaucrats.
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#10If Snowden takes the deal, then he looks like the guy they are trying to paint him to be - a traitor that can't stomach permanent exile. If he takes the deal unconditionally, he will have accomplished nothing other than isolate the United States from the rest of the world. Laws will not change, the people will not gain control of its government's activities. Snowden can take the deal under one condition only - and th…
He's already said he would return if granted amnesty. I agree with nothing you've said.