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Facebook self-censorship: What happens to the posts you don’t publish?

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Re: Facebook self-censorship: What happens to the posts you don’t publish?

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Post by 001sky »

Seems like a scare story conflating metadata (which they collect) with data (which they do not). While certainly the serriptitous and opaque tracking of meta-data is unwanted by many, the idea that they might, maybe, want to track 'actual data' is latent premise. That they don't, is the reality. But there is no neutralizing this fear, here. Because in fact, they can.

So, in eseence the tL;DR = FUD.

The Facebook rep I spoke with agreed that the company isn’t collecting the text of self-censored posts. But it’s certainly technologically possible, and it’s clear that Facebook is interested in the content of your self-censored posts. Das and Kramer’s article closes with the following: "we have arrived at a better understanding of how and where self-censorship manifests on social media; next, we will need to better understand what and why."

Re: Facebook self-censorship: What happens to the posts you don’t publish?

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Post by 001sky »

pasbesoin wrote: post #14

In this age of the "post-page" Internet, it is best to assume that everything you do on a... "page" (cough) may be communicated, unless you take measures yourself to stop this. This will continue to be a topic of concern and debate for at least some of us: Whose agent is the browser? The client's, or the host's? Currently, design trends towards more and more "programmatic" content and behavior seems to be favoring th…

It would be interesting if the internet was born fully formed. If there was not an embedded base of people "thinking it was like it used to be". My guess is it may have never got off the ground. But now that there is sufficient momentum behind a paradigm that makes people predictable (ie, the "old way"), the confidence has been built up to perfectly suit people taking advantage of this very predictability. For the most part, this revolves around "free", "anonymous", "open", etc. The powers that be do not want these things to exist...for the very reason that money is to be made by selling the picks and shovels to those who dream they may one day achieve these things. Heaven forbid you provide this to them, they would then be outside the system of tribute to those who just happen to be in charge.

Re: Facebook self-censorship: What happens to the posts you don’t publish?

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Post by yuliyp »

iLoch wrote: post #39
joshfraser wrote: post #25

There's no need for speculation here. Open Facebook, right click, select "Inspect Element" then the "Network" tab. On a self-censored status update, they send a request to /ajax/bz that triggers their censorlogger, but don't pass the content itself. On messages & chat, they send a request to /ajax/messaging/typ.php to show the other person you're typing, but again, they don't pass your message to their servers. On se…

Well if I was really paranoid I might argue that they could save that information locally then upload it later when Facebook loses the browser's focus (ie. switch tab).

Alright. Go ahead and test that. Have your machine connect through a proxy, leave it open for a day, see what you get

Re: Facebook self-censorship: What happens to the posts you don’t publish?

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Post by losethos »

God is perfectly just.

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and enquired early after God.

78:35 And they remembered that God was their rock, and the high God their redeemer.

78:36 Nevertheless they did flatter him with their mouth, and they lied unto him with their tongues.

78:37 For their heart was not right with him, neither were they stedfast in his covenant.

78:38 But he, being full of compassion, forgave their iniquity, and destroyed them not: yea, many a time turned he his anger away, and did not stir up all his wrath.

78:39 For he remembered that they w

Re: Facebook self-censorship: What happens to the posts you don’t publish?

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Post by teaneedz »

leokun wrote: post #4
sp332 wrote: post #2

Someone should fix the HN headline, currently "Facebook monitors and analyzes posts that users type but don't submit". In their article, Das and Kramer claim to only send back information to Facebook that indicates /whether/ you self-censored, not /what/ you typed. The Facebook rep I spoke with agreed that the company isn’t collecting the text of self-censored posts.... "we have arrived at a better understanding of h…

Title uses vague words that are not necessarily untrue. Facebook is analyzing self-censorship, just not the contents of self-censored posts. What is maybe interesting to users is that there are people at Facebook who think it isn't right for the user to self-censor, that it apparently robs Facebook and your "friends" of the value in that self-censored post. That seems mildly insane and I'm glad I do not use Facebook.

> What is maybe interesting to users is that there are people at Facebook who think it isn't right for the user to self-censor, that it apparently robs Facebook and your "friends" of the value in that self-censored post.

This is exactly the mentality that causes me to barely visit my Facebook timeline these days. I use it less and less.

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