Happy birthday, Arpit! 24 is a great year.
24th Birthday: What it’s like to be 24 for a Software Engineer in India
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Re: 24th Birthday: What it’s like to be 24 for a Software Engineer in India
#22India is an English speaking country, and made its name writing software. (in modern times).
Yet you use the term "softwares" - learn some grammar first - especially when it comes to your identity as a software engineer. Or are you a 'softwares engineer'?
If you are curious, I studied in Chattisgarh, India.
Re: 24th Birthday: What it’s like to be 24 for a Software Engineer in India
#23India is an English speaking country, and made its name writing software. (in modern times). Yet you use the term "softwares" - learn some grammar first - especially when it comes to your identity as a software engineer. Or are you a 'softwares engineer'? If you are curious, I studied in Chattisgarh, India.
That was a mistake. Thanks for pointing out. Corrected.
Re: 24th Birthday: What it’s like to be 24 for a Software Engineer in India
#24India is an English speaking country, and made its name writing software. (in modern times). Yet you use the term "softwares" - learn some grammar first - especially when it comes to your identity as a software engineer. Or are you a 'softwares engineer'? If you are curious, I studied in Chattisgarh, India.
That was a mistake. Thanks for pointing out. Corrected.
Sorry If I came across as being harsh - but you are that 0.1% minority in India, that wants/dares to be an entrepreneur.
Your courage, and determination to try to break away from the suffocating conventions around you - I applaud you.
Re: 24th Birthday: What it’s like to be 24 for a Software Engineer in India
#25Earlier quoted context omitted.
That was a mistake. Thanks for pointing out. Corrected.
Sorry If I came across as being harsh - but you are that 0.1% minority in India, that wants/dares to be an entrepreneur. Your courage, and determination to try to break away from the suffocating conventions around you - I applaud you.
No worries, Thanks for the appreciation. Glad you read the post, and pointed out the mistake. Regards.
Re: 24th Birthday: What it’s like to be 24 for a Software Engineer in India
#26Happy birthday, Arpit! 24 is a great year.
Thanks!
Re: 24th Birthday: What it’s like to be 24 for a Software Engineer in India
#27"IMHO work quality is severely underrated in India, everything just needs to be done, the end quality does not matter, it should just work, that's enough" - this fact about Indian software development is well-known throughout the world.
Honestly I think that there's nothing national in this. It's just because the majority of the development work in India is being done in outsourcing. When you outsource you rarely pay for 'quality code', you pay for the code that works, delivered on time and preferably below the budget. Okay, you get what you're paying for. Having said that I realize that this is a vicious cycle - young developers can write good code…
This. I've outsourced to India, Uruguay, Poland and I think Ukraine. Every single line of code from outsourcing has been thrown away. That was from finding a dev shop and them leasing one of their "devs" for x per hour (x was never under $20).
When I learnt my lesson, I thought about it and removed the indirection. Since 2011 I've only hired directly, but still remotely. I explain exactly what quality level is expected and that it's not a rush to finish.
The countries I've hired from still aren't high wages countries and the initial wages paid were the same as in my unsuccessful attempts. The quality output is far higher, and it's been worthwhile re-writing problem code rather than giving up and trashing it.
I don't think it's the country or the wages that are the problem, I think it's the indirection of another manager, plus the use of another company who often stacks (cheap) junior devs up and their only measure of success is whether their clock hours are full at the end of the month. You just can't expect that company's business goals to align with yours, especially when other companies using their services are often very inconsiderate about dropping the contracts with virtually no warning, that makes their planning really hard.
Re: 24th Birthday: What it’s like to be 24 for a Software Engineer in India
#28"IMHO work quality is severely underrated in India, everything just needs to be done, the end quality does not matter, it should just work, that's enough" - this fact about Indian software development is well-known throughout the world.
Yeah but that doesn't mean Indian developers are bad. Indian companies try to approach a different market which values speed over quality.
No one likes this. No one, not even the people who offer this kind of service in this or other sectors. But it's how you make a living.
Re: 24th Birthday: What it’s like to be 24 for a Software Engineer in India
#29>>>> 98% of Indian Population have not even heard the word "Github" in their entire life, yet everyone acts like they know this stuff What kind of logic is it? Are 98% of Indian population software engineers? Why do they need to know about GitHub?
Why do they need to act like if the know github? What's important about github outside the dev community????
Re: 24th Birthday: What it’s like to be 24 for a Software Engineer in India
#30Hah! This is very interesting.
I am a programmer from India. I somehow prefer programmer over software engineer. I turned 23 on 11th. And for me 22 was complicated enough. Interestingly, I am not from any IIT, NIT or whatever that you mention and neither do I have a job in the big brand firm.
But still I think the situation is somewhat better than what you have mentioned in your post. Maybe its a difference between where we are located but I don't get that much heat anymore as far as job and stuff are related. Also I do not think everyone should care about your open source contributions or code quality, unless by nobody you meant people who code next to you.
Also its great that you finally are doing what you like. It is pretty guaranteed that there would be people out complaining about something in your life even if you were working at some big company. It is difficult enough to be bothered with what we are doing, that we should care about what others thing. ;-) Oh btw, Happy Birthday!