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My sister's a quilter and Google mugged her

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Re: My sister's a quilter and Google mugged her

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One free thing you can do to optimize marketing is to not name your business a generic term . If your business has a unique name you generally don't have to worry about competitors outranking you for the name. For example, I don't think my brother will ever get outranked for "porcelain rocket"; he currently owns not just the top spot but the entire first page.

Plenty of products/services like Windows, Xerox, tipex start as generic terms or become them during their lifetime. I'm not saying that they should therefore always come first, but it's instructive if you compare xerox to this website - they dominate the entire first page of google results. What should come first is what would be useful for end users, and I think it's fair to expect a company named after and with an…

The brand is "Tipp-Ex".

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=tipp-ex

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=tipp-ex&oq=tipp-ex&gs_l=se...

http://www.bing.com/search?q=tipp-ex&go=&qs=n&form=QBLH&filt...

http://www.yandex.com/yandsearch?text=tipp-ex&lr=87

http://www.dogpile.com/search/web?fcoid=417&fcop=topnav&fpid...

http://uk.search.yahoo.com/search;_ylt=An3Le.5YQeHZ499qBVnAQ...

Re: My sister's a quilter and Google mugged her

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And apparently Mr Cringely doesn't know anything about Webmaster Tools, which would probably be the first stop of anyone wanting to know about a sudden change in rank. Sudden changes are usually the function of 'action' rather than 'inaction' so I'm guessing that somewhere there was an action. Did she succumb to some black hat SEO marketing pitch? Did Cringely piss off some black hat SEO person? Did her site get comp…

This is a report going into detail about the site and the violations to Googles terms with regards manipulative links:

http://linkaudit.co.uk/blog/did-cringely-call-out-google-as-...

Re: My sister's a quilter and Google mugged her

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Two other pieces of information would be great here. 1) What is the URL in question. 2) When you click the 'why not' link what does it say? The other (possibly not relevant) question is whether or not you have any Google advertising or not on your site. I'm not suggesting that there is a 'pay for play' here, what I'm looking at is that when you use 'AdsenseForContent' or (AfC) the only way Google can know what sort o…

My url is: http://www.smitecamp.com

(I work at Google on webmaster issues) Your site has a manual spam action probably based on something a previous owner had on it ( https://web.archive.org/web/20110202220759/http://smitecamp.... shows scraped Yahoo Answers content). You can see that in Webmaster Tools under Search Traffic / Manual Actions. Submitting a reconsideration request should do the trick.

Re: My sister's a quilter and Google mugged her

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post #111

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Plenty of products/services like Windows, Xerox, tipex start as generic terms or become them during their lifetime. I'm not saying that they should therefore always come first, but it's instructive if you compare xerox to this website - they dominate the entire first page of google results. What should come first is what would be useful for end users, and I think it's fair to expect a company named after and with an…

The brand is "Tipp-Ex". https://duckduckgo.com/?q=tipp-ex https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=tipp-ex&oq=tipp-ex&gs_l=se... http://www.bing.com/search?q=tipp-ex&go=&qs=n&form=QBLH&filt... http://www.yandex.com/yandsearch?text=tipp-ex&lr=87 http://www.dogpile.com/search/web?fcoid=417&fcop=topnav&fpid... http://uk.search.yahoo.com/search;_ylt=An3Le.5YQeHZ499qBVnAQ...

Thanks.

Re: My sister's a quilter and Google mugged her

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In one sense you are correct that Google is "free" because one does not pay cash directly to Google to be listed in its results or to preform a search. But in another sense, Google is not free at all. The fact is, Google lives and thrives off of the data generated by the public. Yes, Google employees smart people. But its real value is derived from the underlying public data that Google gets- for free. Google search…

Google does not get its data for free - what do you think the 50,000 people employed there are doing? The vast number of servers, the ridiculous power bill, the research efforts - all these are so they can not only gather the same data that any of us can also gather with a simple bash script, but also present it in such a way that is significantly "better" than the competition that some people are actually willing to…

The vast majority of Google employees are not downloading public data or working on Googlebot. They are working on either converting public data into better advertising algorithms or creating a product that will capture peoples' attention.

Yes, it is true that Google pays a lot for infrastructure to download the data. But it is a drop in the well compared to the price of actually generating the data. Otherwise they would just do that.

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