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Re: Free Games: Fallout, Fallout 2, and Fallout Tactics

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Post by mcv »

mercurial wrote: post #46
shin_lao wrote: post #41

For those who don't know, Fallout 2 is probably one of the best RPG for the computer ever . With the proper mods and fixes it's really playable and enjoyable on a recent computer (I really recommend the hi-res patch http://falloutmods.wikia.com/wiki/Fallout2_High_Resolution_P... for starters). Fallout 3 New Vegas came close to Fallout 2 in terms of ambiance and game play, but not close enough (mainly because of the c…

Both Fallouts are very good, but don't reach the heights of Planescape Torment in terms of writing or character development. I didn't play Fallout 3, but Fallout New Vegas' combat was abysmal. I actually liked the idea of wandering around in the wastelands, as opposed to traveling via the map (that's what Bethesda has been doing all along: exploration games with bad combat and NPCs-as-banks of informations), but I wo…

I'm currently playing Fallout: New Vegas, and the real-time FPS combat is remarkably playable (though I normally hate FPS games). The VATS is terrible, and not a good replacement for the combat systems of 1 and 2.

After Planescape: Torment, Fallout 1 and 2 were probably among the best CRPGs ever. That was really the golden age of CRPGs. Only The Witcher really added some real value (unfortunately The Witcher 2 has the most horrible combat I've ever experienced in a CRPG).

If you love the classic isometric games, also check out Shadowrun Returns. It's not quite up there with Torment and the Fallouts, but it's well worth playing.

Re: Free Games: Fallout, Fallout 2, and Fallout Tactics

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Post by mcv »

angersock wrote: post #35

For the curious, here's the postmortem of Fallout Tactics: http://www.gamasutra.com/view/feature/3088/postmortem_micro_... It was a solid tactics game, but there were some rough edges in bringing in the Fallout stuff.

I never played it, because it was all about combat and lacked the story of FO1 and 2. But now I might give it a try anyway.

Re: Free Games: Fallout, Fallout 2, and Fallout Tactics

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Post by mercurial »

mcv wrote: post #51
mercurial wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Both Fallouts are very good, but don't reach the heights of Planescape Torment in terms of writing or character development. I didn't play Fallout 3, but Fallout New Vegas' combat was abysmal. I actually liked the idea of wandering around in the wastelands, as opposed to traveling via the map (that's what Bethesda has been doing all along: exploration games with bad combat and NPCs-as-banks of informations), but I wo…

I'm currently playing Fallout: New Vegas, and the real-time FPS combat is remarkably playable (though I normally hate FPS games). The VATS is terrible, and not a good replacement for the combat systems of 1 and 2. After Planescape: Torment, Fallout 1 and 2 were probably among the best CRPGs ever. That was really the golden age of CRPGs. Only The Witcher really added some real value (unfortunately The Witcher 2 has th…

Baldur's Gate 2 was very good too, and was (AFAIK) the first CRPG to develop party NPCs to such an extent. And fortunately, you could dump most of the awful, strangleable NPCs from Baldur's Gate 1.

Re: Free Games: Fallout, Fallout 2, and Fallout Tactics

#54

Post by mcv »

pavel_lishin wrote: post #21
wnoise wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> but still (in my mind) unsurpassed in writing I take it you haven't played _Planescape: Torment_ ?

I actually tried playing this. When I left the room in which I woke up, some sort of giant angel thing basically insta-killed me. Considering that this was after 5 minutes of gameplay, I gave up. :/

Well, try it again. It has by far the best writing of any CRPG. I love the Fallouts, but Torment is High Literature. It's the Shakespeare and the Firefly of computer gaming.

Allt he great, special unique games, from Star Control 2 to Bioshock to Braid, Torment beats them. It's a game that makes you think far beyond the stuff that's in the game.

Re: Free Games: Fallout, Fallout 2, and Fallout Tactics

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Post by mcv »

copx wrote: post #19
danso wrote: post #4

I've bought these games several times before (at discount) for the various OSes and computers I've had. I haven't played many modern RPGs (including Fallout 3+) but have any RPGs since Fallout surpassed it in allowing the player to truly embody an actual path? Not only could you play through making good/evil moral choices, but you could actually win the first game, IIRC, without even firing a single shot (by talking…

>have any RPGs since Fallout surpassed it in allowing the player to truly embody an actual path? Yes, Arcanum: Of Steamworks and Magick Obscura.

Never finished it. Looked really cool, but it was buggy, and I lost interest after I reached that big city.

Also, didn't it have that overdone "chosen one" plot?

But maybe I should give it another chance.

Re: Free Games: Fallout, Fallout 2, and Fallout Tactics

#56

Post by mcv »

wsc981 wrote: post #28
donniezazen wrote: post #27

Are they saying I should download the copies of all the games asap?

No, you can just add the games for free to your GoG account in de coming hours. From then on you can download the games anytime you want.

Yeah, better not download them while their servers are getting hammered like this. But it's nice to know you can always get them later.

Re: Free Games: Fallout, Fallout 2, and Fallout Tactics

#57

Post by knowitall »

mcv wrote: post #51
mercurial wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Both Fallouts are very good, but don't reach the heights of Planescape Torment in terms of writing or character development. I didn't play Fallout 3, but Fallout New Vegas' combat was abysmal. I actually liked the idea of wandering around in the wastelands, as opposed to traveling via the map (that's what Bethesda has been doing all along: exploration games with bad combat and NPCs-as-banks of informations), but I wo…

I'm currently playing Fallout: New Vegas, and the real-time FPS combat is remarkably playable (though I normally hate FPS games). The VATS is terrible, and not a good replacement for the combat systems of 1 and 2. After Planescape: Torment, Fallout 1 and 2 were probably among the best CRPGs ever. That was really the golden age of CRPGs. Only The Witcher really added some real value (unfortunately The Witcher 2 has th…

Gothic 2, Risen

Re: Free Games: Fallout, Fallout 2, and Fallout Tactics

#58

Post by PeterisP »

wnoise wrote: post #8
danso wrote: post #4

I've bought these games several times before (at discount) for the various OSes and computers I've had. I haven't played many modern RPGs (including Fallout 3+) but have any RPGs since Fallout surpassed it in allowing the player to truly embody an actual path? Not only could you play through making good/evil moral choices, but you could actually win the first game, IIRC, without even firing a single shot (by talking…

> but still (in my mind) unsurpassed in writing I take it you haven't played _Planescape: Torment_ ?

Planescape was nice, but I actually liked Fallout/Fallout2 storytelling a bit more.

Re: Free Games: Fallout, Fallout 2, and Fallout Tactics

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Post by smithzvk »

yareally wrote: post #30
smithzvk wrote: post #17

Just goes to show you, if you wait long enough, that game you never had a chance to play but have been eying for a decade will be given out for free... so now it can sit on your hard drive where you still won't have time to play it!! Now I just need wait for the OddWorld games to start coming out for free... any decade now...

It's 3 dollars right now on gog during the sale, so it might as well be free. http://www.gog.com/game/oddworld_abes_oddysee

Indeed, but there are odd economics at work here. How much do you pay for something that you might not use in the next 2 years, or ever? Do you assume it will drop in price? If it isn't already installed, will I ever actually bother when there are so many other distractions competing for my time?

We live in a world crowded with entertainment opportunity and it is only getting more crowded with time.

(by the way, GOG should pay you a commission for talking me into it)

Re: Free Games: Fallout, Fallout 2, and Fallout Tactics

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Post by theandrewbailey »

benologist wrote: post #2

GOG's site has been very slow all day but if you're persistent you can also gift these games to other people for $0.

I was able to get these last night (~10PM EST) without issue. The download maxed my FiOS connection, too.
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