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Re: The Best Books I Read in 2013

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Need not have to label the Fiction genre as a non-educative one. Numerous amount of fiction books teach about the world, the cultures and provokes self-introspection. Non-fiction, agreed. Especially Biographies of successful people who made it from the scratch after a lot of struggling, like Mr. Gates himself.

If your dad owns private equity in starbucks and gives you money to buy software from IBM -- THAT is hardly pulling yourself up from the bootstraps yo.

Re: The Best Books I Read in 2013

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Need not have to label the Fiction genre as a non-educative one. Numerous amount of fiction books teach about the world, the cultures and provokes self-introspection. Non-fiction, agreed. Especially Biographies of successful people who made it from the scratch after a lot of struggling, like Mr. Gates himself.

If your dad owns private equity in starbucks and gives you money to buy software from IBM -- THAT is hardly pulling yourself up from the bootstraps yo.

Apparently he read Gates' fictional biography...

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Still, fiction is fiction. It's like all those questions : would you rather do this, or live all your life with this. They are fun, but they are useless as they never happened. There is no point thinking about them besides playing with your imagination. Fiction is the same to me, yes it came from a real context, but it's still a work of fiction and doesn't teach you anything about real life. e.g. Are you gonna learn…

In one sense this is true, non-fiction works are much richer in factoids; conversely, however, fiction is richer in certain other facts: It is difficult to get the news from poems yet men die miserably every day for lack of what is found there. This doesn't mean that non-fiction works cannot pertain to the reader/viewer that kind of knowledge, e.g. the iconic image of Phan Thi Kim Phuc burn by napalm in Vietnam ( htt…

So, I recently read Pride and Prejudice at the behest of my girlfriend (it's her favorite book) and I just could not get into it. I don't know if it was the Regency-era prose or what, but I could not get into a flow of reading it - some books I'll effortlessly ingest 100+ pages at a time, but nothing like that happened with P&P. It always felt like a struggle. I enjoyed some of the characters - Mrs. Bennet is ridiculous, and Mr. Collins is one of the funniest characters I've encountered in fiction, but overall I'd have a hard time recommending it to anyone.

Now, I know that many critics and authors I admire consider P&P to be one of the finest English-language novels ever written, so I have to ask: what am I missing?

Re: The Best Books I Read in 2013

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I just took a road trip and looked at one of Bill Gates previous favorite books list, and picked "Tap Dancing to Work: Warren Buffett on Practically Everything, 1966-2012". I've always wanted to know more about Mr. Buffet, so I thought this would be a great choice. I almost drove off the road listening to him talking about bonds vs stocks and percentages. It was interesting, but definitely not a road trip book. That…

> some of the theories in Snow Crash were incredible, and way before their time.

The namshubs from Snow Crash are pretty heavily inspired by ideas from The Origin of Consciousness in the Breakdown of the Bicameral Mind. It's a very interesting book. Richard Dawkins said of it "It is one of those books that is either complete rubbish or a work of consummate genius, nothing in between! Probably the former, but I'm hedging my bets."

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Mine: Good books teach you about the world and about yourself.

What are some books you deem as good based on that criteria?

Infinite Jest, Herzog, Ulysses, Things Fall Apart, The Magic Mountain, Zeno's Conscience, The Sun Also Rises, Underworld, ...

Re: The Best Books I Read in 2013

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I just took a road trip and looked at one of Bill Gates previous favorite books list, and picked "Tap Dancing to Work: Warren Buffett on Practically Everything, 1966-2012". I've always wanted to know more about Mr. Buffet, so I thought this would be a great choice. I almost drove off the road listening to him talking about bonds vs stocks and percentages. It was interesting, but definitely not a road trip book. That…

With "The Baroque Cycle", you can combine the experiences. (I'm mostly kidding, I enjoyed it, but some parts do go on)

No kidding. Here I am 80% done after only six years!

Re: The Best Books I Read in 2013

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What are some books you deem as good based on that criteria?

No, the "teach me about the world and myself" is not a criteria for being a good book, quite the opposite. It is not because a book teaches you something that it is good, it is because it is good that it teaches you something. But why or how is it good, then? Well, usually because the writer is a good writer (but not always, some books have no writers, or are good despite their bad writers). And a good writer is just…

that boils down to "good books are made of good writing, which is created by good writers, and good writers feel strongly about the things they write about"

Re: The Best Books I Read in 2013

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"But I read mostly nonfiction because I always want to learn more about how the world works." Boy oh boy, if I had a quarter every time I heard that probably I could get a tall Starbucks latte. Many, many people are under the assumption that fiction is stuff that somebody made up and hence useless while non-fiction gives you information about the world; so if you're a busy person, read non-fiction (it's of, course de…

I prefer anthropology, sociology, history and psychology to fiction when it comes to learning more about humanity.

Re: The Best Books I Read in 2013

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Still, fiction is fiction. It's like all those questions : would you rather do this, or live all your life with this. They are fun, but they are useless as they never happened. There is no point thinking about them besides playing with your imagination. Fiction is the same to me, yes it came from a real context, but it's still a work of fiction and doesn't teach you anything about real life. e.g. Are you gonna learn…

> They are fun, but they are useless as they never happened. There is no point thinking about them besides playing with your imagination. Just because something happened doesn't mean it's useful to think about. Conversely, just because something never happened doesn't mean it isn't useful to think about. I've read fiction books that made me examine my perspective or way of life in a way that nothing else has, and I'v…

Very true, now is a very good time to reread 1984 or Brave New World and reflect on where our society is headed.

Re: The Best Books I Read in 2013

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"But I read mostly nonfiction because I always want to learn more about how the world works." Boy oh boy, if I had a quarter every time I heard that probably I could get a tall Starbucks latte. Many, many people are under the assumption that fiction is stuff that somebody made up and hence useless while non-fiction gives you information about the world; so if you're a busy person, read non-fiction (it's of, course de…

Agreed. Fiction lets me say some things that would be ignored otherwise. There is something insidious about it. My stories would be off-putting in a frank manner. But through fiction, you can rest your case and expose a world that would otherwise be ignored. For example, The Kite Runner is probably the only way to learn about Afghanistan for many people.
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