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Re: AWS Management Console - Auto Scaling Support

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It always struck me as odd that one of the original defining features of AWS never had a web interface. Maybe they were making it API-only to protect people from shooting themselves in the foot with exorbitant bills. Regardless through I'm really glad to see this finally!

I think another part of it is that an API interface actually makes more sense. While the necessity for the non-technically inclined are pretty obvious, auto-scaling shouldn't usually be done reactively, and doing so is at the expense of optimal service delivery. That said, I can imagine a good number of times it could come in handy, even for the techiest of us. It might have simply not been the lowest hanging fruit,…

> auto-scaling shouldn't usually be done reactively, and doing so is at the expense of optimal service delivery.

You can react predictively (or predict reactively, whichever way you want to say it.)

Set up a cascade control system, training it as it runs on (process load x cost-of-scale.) It will begin to "see the signs" of load being about to occur, and adjust accordingly to reduce it. You know, just like any modern thermostat.

Re: AWS Management Console - Auto Scaling Support

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think another part of it is that an API interface actually makes more sense. While the necessity for the non-technically inclined are pretty obvious, auto-scaling shouldn't usually be done reactively, and doing so is at the expense of optimal service delivery. That said, I can imagine a good number of times it could come in handy, even for the techiest of us. It might have simply not been the lowest hanging fruit,…

> auto-scaling shouldn't usually be done reactively, and doing so is at the expense of optimal service delivery. You can react predictively (or predict reactively, whichever way you want to say it.) Set up a cascade control system, training it as it runs on (process load x cost-of-scale.) It will begin to "see the signs" of load being about to occur, and adjust accordingly to reduce it. You know, just like any modern…

You can. I even qualified that in the next line. ;-)

Even easier, you could just say "Scale it up, we're demoing this to 3,000 users at PyCon", and do that proactively as well -- that said, it's likely done at the expense of efficiency or cost.

Re: AWS Management Console - Auto Scaling Support

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It always struck me as odd that one of the original defining features of AWS never had a web interface. Maybe they were making it API-only to protect people from shooting themselves in the foot with exorbitant bills. Regardless through I'm really glad to see this finally!

> to protect people from shooting themselves in the foot with exorbitant bills

As a matter of fact this is why new EC2 instances don't get swap -- running into swap can cost a pretty penny.

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I would rather like to see better CPU performance first then auto-scale. Awful CPU performance is what keeping me away from EC2, trying linode nowadays..

Have you tried the new c3 instances?

For the last 2 days i have a script that is trying to allocate a c3 instance with no luck. AWS is having crazy capacity problems in us-east (all zones).

Re: AWS Management Console - Auto Scaling Support

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I would rather like to see better CPU performance first then auto-scale. Awful CPU performance is what keeping me away from EC2, trying linode nowadays..

The new C3.Large is cheaper than M1.Large (and only marginally more expensive than the old M1.Medium), but its CPU performance is roughly twice as good. Swapping over made a notable difference for our web nodes (perhaps 30-40% reduction in server time for the web-facing tier).

C3's instance-level SSD drives are a very nice touch as well.

Re: AWS Management Console - Auto Scaling Support

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It always struck me as odd that one of the original defining features of AWS never had a web interface. Maybe they were making it API-only to protect people from shooting themselves in the foot with exorbitant bills. Regardless through I'm really glad to see this finally!

> to protect people from shooting themselves in the foot with exorbitant bills As a matter of fact this is why new EC2 instances don't get swap -- running into swap can cost a pretty penny.

What do you mean by this?

You can swap to local (ephemeral storage) at no charge. Or you can created a provisioned IOPS EBS volume and swap all you'd like. There's no separate I/O charge for these volumes.

Re: AWS Management Console - Auto Scaling Support

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I actually hate Amazon for exposing these features - now, my boss will be mucking around with them! As a DevOps guy, nothing beats AWS CLI and CloudFormation!

That's what IAM is for. Create a playground for your boss and let him or her muck around in safety.

Re: AWS Management Console - Auto Scaling Support

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have you tried the new c3 instances?

For the last 2 days i have a script that is trying to allocate a c3 instance with no luck. AWS is having crazy capacity problems in us-east (all zones).

Good to know - we were salivating and planning to switch from M1 to C3.
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