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Re: Images Now Showing in Gmail

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Badly: http://blog.movableink.com/gmails-recent-image-handling-chan...

To clarify, it's bad for marketing people, but good for users desiring privacy.

How can this possibly do anything but enable tracking? They can just embed hmac(secret, your_email).png.

Re: Images Now Showing in Gmail

#12

I hate to be "that guy", but does this mean Google is storing every one of our pics on their proxy servers? For how long do they store them, and what is their data retention policy? Also, remembering that Google has no obligation to protect non-American users, does that give the NSA access to them, to run things like facial recognition, etc?

Assuming worst-case NSA scenario, even if the images weren't hosted by Google, the NSA would just pull the external images anyway for facial recognition/what not.

Re: Images Now Showing in Gmail

#13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To clarify, it's bad for marketing people, but good for users desiring privacy.

To an extent - it seems that google indirectly confirms that emails are received (even though additional data is lost).

I believe they still have an "Ask before displaying external images" setting.

Re: Images Now Showing in Gmail

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This is a step in the right direction. However, please understand that it doesn't really make a difference in forms of real privacy Googlers! The e-mail spam/list creators are a different kind of adversary than, for example, web trackers. They will do something like this: http www theirimageserver com/images/img53.jpg?to=you@email.com (Obviously they will obfuscate and use some kind of hash instead of cleartext e-mai…

Is it possible that Google also loads images in emails sent to invalid @gmail.com addresses?

Re: Images Now Showing in Gmail

#16
Is Google loading these images when a user opens mail? (Have they just automatically opted users in to "read receipts"?)

Or are these images pre-cached when mail is delivered (so that the fact that an image was loaded is just proof of delivery, which you should be able to get anyway?)

Re: Images Now Showing in Gmail

#17

This is a step in the right direction. However, please understand that it doesn't really make a difference in forms of real privacy Googlers! The e-mail spam/list creators are a different kind of adversary than, for example, web trackers. They will do something like this: http www theirimageserver com/images/img53.jpg?to=you@email.com (Obviously they will obfuscate and use some kind of hash instead of cleartext e-mai…

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Re: Images Now Showing in Gmail

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This is a step in the right direction. However, please understand that it doesn't really make a difference in forms of real privacy Googlers! The e-mail spam/list creators are a different kind of adversary than, for example, web trackers. They will do something like this: http www theirimageserver com/images/img53.jpg?to=you@email.com (Obviously they will obfuscate and use some kind of hash instead of cleartext e-mai…

They can mitigate that by downloading all images that come to any address @gmail.com. That way spammers won't know if you@gmail.com is real or not, and still be at step 0 (and hopefully taking some bandwidth/processing time/log space from the spammer at the same time!).

Re: Images Now Showing in Gmail

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Since images usually contain tracking information, I wonder how this helps? Maybe the proxy automatically gets and stores the image as soon as the email is received? So in this manner, they will not be able to tell if/when a user actually clicks on a link?

Re: Images Now Showing in Gmail

#20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To clarify, it's bad for marketing people, but good for users desiring privacy.

To an extent - it seems that google indirectly confirms that emails are received (even though additional data is lost).

But surely ALL emails to @gmail.com are received.
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