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Re: YouTube Blocks Game Videos, Industry Offers Help

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Post by ekianjo »

chilldream wrote: post #36
ekianjo wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Don't claim copyright infringement on uploaded video game soundtracks to YouTube (except Square Enix because their Final Fantasy OST still sells big) Because most video game music is crap, really. Of course, there are exceptions, but nothing that would really sell anyway if they were marketing it. Don't send DMCA notices to people who remix their content (make mods) Huh... you haven't heard about Nintendo I guess? Th…

Nintendo is and has always been an outlier when it comes to clamping down on "their" IP. This is the company that tried to sue Blockbuster for renting games (the fallout from this suit is why rental games didn't come with the official manual). They also tried to sue Game Genie out of existence. If you were bothered by the Super Mario JavaScript thing or Nintendo leading the charge on this YouTube drama, it's nothing…

Sure, yet Nintendo is still widely loved by the same people who seem to complain about their behavior. Talk about Stockholm syndrome :)

Re: YouTube Blocks Game Videos, Industry Offers Help

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Post by simfoo »

archgoon wrote: post #30

I'm pretty sure that Twitch will happily fill the gap here.

Not until Twitch manages to fix their downlink connection problems. I haven't been able to watch a single HD cast without major lags and stuttering in months even though I'm on a very fast connection (granted, not by a major provider so no direct peering).

Twitch has promised to build new data centers here in Europe but I have only noticed it becoming worse. I'm not the only one too, I'm part of the Team Fortress 2 competitive community and get to talk to a lot of other Twitch viewers. Also, don't get me started on VODs on Twitch, they're even worse.

Re: YouTube Blocks Game Videos, Industry Offers Help

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Post by lnanek2 »

ChrisNorstrom wrote: post #6

What stands out most about this issue is the open-mindedness of the Video Games Industry. The fact that they've stood up for someone's ability to not only record their gameplay, but on top of that, make money from it just shows how understanding they are (unlike neighboring industries that take down amateur remixes from Soundcloud and YouTube). They're one of the few industries that generally: ● Don't Sue Pirates ● D…

I've seen companies come in and present at Google IO about how awesome it was for them and players both when they added upload of game moments to YouTube. It was a huge word of mouth advertising win for them that users were sharing and promoting videos of playing their game. If anything this is a case of Google hurting games, probably due to some lawyer of theirs forcing them to.

Re: YouTube Blocks Game Videos, Industry Offers Help

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Post by ekianjo »

dfdfdbbb wrote: post #39
ekianjo wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

1) it's not because you record with an orchestra that it's not crap, sorry. Music is not just about how much money you throw at it, if there's no art in it, it's just crap. And when I say "there's exceptions" I dont know how you can say i make a blanket statement. 2) Sorry, but a 20+ year old game should be in the public domain, period. Why do we apply copyrights which are longer than what we apply on drugs? Sorry bu…

I wanna choke you for bitching (#1) but I want to hug you for complaint (#2). Stop it already! #1 There's as much art to an effective & supportive game theme music as there is to the mind numbing pop "music" that sells millions. #2 GOD YES. The sheer amount of anti innovation power these companies hold is offensively revolting.

Haha ok I'll stop here :)

#1 I just want to say that I own a good number of video games OST and that there are some rare gems, but frankly in my music collection the video game's part is a small, small minority. I think people here reacted strongly to my statement because when you think about good video game music, sure you can come with great examples (I love the OST for Castlevania Symphony of the Night, for example), but in the thousands of games I have played since my childhood, I can't seriously say, with a straight face, that there's more art in there than anywhere else. A good number of video games have been (and remain) sub-par in terms of production quality, and just like you don't have that many good stories/scripts in video games, you don't have many good musics either in the industry as a whole. Sure, you can have a catchy tune here and there, but is that really good just because it sticks in your head? I'll let you ponder.

Re: YouTube Blocks Game Videos, Industry Offers Help

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Post by Morgawr »

ekianjo wrote: post #40
Morgawr wrote: post #33

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>And when I say "there's exceptions" I dont know how you can say i make a blanket statement. Honestly, calling most videogame music crap is a bit ignorant imo (even though you mention "exceptions"). A lot of videogames, even minor ones and some indies, have amazing music and OST. This is because sound is one of the most important aspects of game development, even though most people don't really understand that. It is…

> Really, claiming that "most videogame music is crap" is just being ignorant. It just means I have probably higher standards than you have when it comes to appreciating music. I've been playing video games for 30 years+, so I wouldn't consider myself ignorant, I just find most video games music very dull and uninspiring.

Yes, definitely dull and uninspiring /sarcasm http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video_game_music

But yeah, to each their own I guess. I'm just a bit riled up because calling it "crap" is a very offensive and ignorant statement. I've seen much much worse dull and uninspiring "crap" being sold commercially as pop music, and that's a huge industry nowadays.

Anyhow to lighten up the mood, here, have some great music that might (hopefully) make you change idea. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlNhwnssA8g http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88_PGUa69aE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4BP42FzKRI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LB7LZZGpkw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMhcyzQ7mKw (I could go on for hours, better not spam the thread though)

Re: YouTube Blocks Game Videos, Industry Offers Help

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Post by Zecc »

ekianjo wrote: post #18
InclinedPlane wrote: post #16

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Let's see: Zelda and Mario series, pretty much every Square game, Halo, Star Wars games (though that's cheating), Minecraft, Castlevania games, Skyrim, Journey, Bastion, and many others. Video games have about as much chance of having awesome sound tracks as other media such as cinematic films.

You do realize that the games you quoted represent 0.0001% of all games being marketed ? (regardless of popularity). I could just say you are being biased. Besides, if you are an extremely talented musician, it's not in videogames that you'll get widespread recognition nor the best salaries either. Can you name any of the musicians who worked on the games you mentioned, by memory ? Good try. So of course, people who…

> Can you name any of the musicians who worked on the games you mentioned, by memory ? Good try.

That's a bit unfair. Movies tend to put the composer's name in big letters right before the movie starts, while in games the name usually comes "buried" in the credits only.

Also I personally find that the best soundtracks come from Japanese games, and I'm not very good at dealing with Japanese games.

Re: YouTube Blocks Game Videos, Industry Offers Help

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Post by chii »

smtddr wrote: post #3

>>If you’re dependent on YouTube for making money from video content, that’s disastrous, as even a single strike against your YouTube account can limit the account’s functionality within the site and impact anything from the length of videos you’re able to upload to your ability to monetise those videos with advertising. Always be very careful when your business depends on the free(AFAIK, uploading to youtube is free…

i say for monetized accounts, there needs to be more accountability from google's end to prevent loss of monetization. A rogue DMCA takedown is detrimental to a youtuber's livelihood. If you haven't, check out these following opinion pieces : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfgoDDh4kE0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=en5hWeodMws

I highly respect content producers on youtube - they deserve as much protection from rogue elements who intend to exploit them as possible. Unfortunately, there isn't any competition for youtube, and so the problem will only get worse.

Re: YouTube Blocks Game Videos, Industry Offers Help

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Post by chii »

uchi wrote: post #37
leeskye wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Publishers who own the IP to titles can claim copyright to the gameplays. Since it is basically free promotion for their games, it's against their best interest. Hence, you see them offering their blessing and support to YouTubers.

The problem is that a lot of videos are being taken down because of copyright claims on press materials and game footage from trailers, not gameplays. This material is classified under fair use. They're also attempting to claim copyright on game reviews. Which in short, puts reviewers in a bad position where someone is trying to monetize their opinion and are easily silenced if that opinion is unpopular. For reviewer…

It's not only grossly unfair to reviewers, but that copyright's fair use clauses specifically allows for fair use in critiques! These copyright claims are bogus.

Re: YouTube Blocks Game Videos, Industry Offers Help

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Post by saraid216 »

simfoo wrote: post #42
archgoon wrote: post #30

I'm pretty sure that Twitch will happily fill the gap here.

Not until Twitch manages to fix their downlink connection problems. I haven't been able to watch a single HD cast without major lags and stuttering in months even though I'm on a very fast connection (granted, not by a major provider so no direct peering). Twitch has promised to build new data centers here in Europe but I have only noticed it becoming worse. I'm not the only one too, I'm part of the Team Fortress 2 c…

Have they fixed the issue where the same ad will repeatedly play back-to-back over the free version? It's been a while since I've tried to watch a Twitch stream because of that.

Re: YouTube Blocks Game Videos, Industry Offers Help

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Post by petriw »

simfoo wrote: post #42
archgoon wrote: post #30

I'm pretty sure that Twitch will happily fill the gap here.

Not until Twitch manages to fix their downlink connection problems. I haven't been able to watch a single HD cast without major lags and stuttering in months even though I'm on a very fast connection (granted, not by a major provider so no direct peering). Twitch has promised to build new data centers here in Europe but I have only noticed it becoming worse. I'm not the only one too, I'm part of the Team Fortress 2 c…

While VODs may start slow I find the playback much more reliable than streams here in Europe.
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