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New Google Sheets: faster, more powerful, and works offline

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Re: New Google Sheets: faster, more powerful, and works offline

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Post by Spearchucker »

selectnull wrote: post #115
Spearchucker wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How is Gmail faster than Outlook? I've used both for as long as they've existed, and both for work and personal use, and don't see where or how Gmail is faster. Not going to bother with the more powerful comment. This being HN and all I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you're simply not familiar enough with Outlook, rather than trolling.

I've switched to gmail some 4 years ago and before that was Outlook user since the 90es; that means I'm not familiar with the latest office version but it's not like I'm speaking without any experience. Gmail has one of the best keyboard shortcuts ever, thing that always anoyed me with Outlook was that focus would get stuck between two panes and the only way out was to click with mouse. With few labels, powerful filt…

I don't search much. What I do a lot of is sort my inbox by sender. Pretty basic feature right there.

Re: New Google Sheets: faster, more powerful, and works offline

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Post by jodrellblank »

kyrra wrote: post #135
gdulli wrote: post #24

I'm at my first company that uses Google apps and it's been a bad experience. There's so much about email and calendaring that Outlook/Exchange got right that it's hard to be without it after taking it for granted. Using a native rich application is always going to be superior to building a web app on top of a browser. Once you're used to real applications, Gmail and the other apps aren't suitable for anything more t…

I went from a fully MS Office company, to a different company that used Google Apps, which was recently bought by another company that uses MS Office (that we are now moving to). I've had extensive experience with both products at this point. ===Outlook vs Gmail=== Outlook has a lot of things going for it. One of my main complaints is the functionality difference between the PC and OSX versions of Outlook. Outlook on…

=== Word vs Docs === I'd say the only way Google wins in this is collaboration. Being able to work on the same document with multiple people at the same time is such an amazing feature, I'm sad to lose it.

You can collaboratively edit Word documents in Word 2010 and SharePoint:

http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/word-help/video-coauthorin...

Also works in OneNote. OneNote can do it without SharePoint, I don't know whether Word can.

Re: New Google Sheets: faster, more powerful, and works offline

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Post by mathnode »

mierle wrote: post #30
gdulli wrote: post #24

I'm at my first company that uses Google apps and it's been a bad experience. There's so much about email and calendaring that Outlook/Exchange got right that it's hard to be without it after taking it for granted. Using a native rich application is always going to be superior to building a web app on top of a browser. Once you're used to real applications, Gmail and the other apps aren't suitable for anything more t…

I recently went through an acquisition where we transitioned from Google Apps to the Microsoft suite. I do not share your love of Microsoft's suite. Among the many problems I have with the Microsoft suite, Outlook is at the top of my list for generating the most frustration. GMail's priority inbox and new-style inbox where machine learning is used to sort out mail is a productivity booster for me. With Outlook, I reg…

Not having to attach files for even the slightest change is so much better. I really miss working for a company that uses google apps.

Everything was online and centrally controlled. Jira, Confluence, AWS, Github, MediaWiki (some of these were self-hosted), and google apps.

I have always preferred centralised computing, you can visually see the headaches and frustration drop for IT support technicians when they don't have to deal with minor printer, file, or collaboration issues. The kind of issues that were created by the "PC" in the business environment.

Re: New Google Sheets: faster, more powerful, and works offline

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Post by drzaiusapelord »

qw wrote: post #140
drzaiusapelord wrote: post #129

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> I'd prefer that any money my company might be saving be deducted from my paycheck if it would mean they'd get off of Google apps. Sysadmin here. How much are you willing to pay? I'll need at least 2 domain servers, exchange server, backup server/device/nas/tapes, etc to give you a stable and recoverable environment. I'll need an air conditioned server room/closet as well and a decent UPS. We'll need to pay for offs…

There are companies that provide hosting services for Exchange, so there is no need for a local installation.

If he's unhappy with cloud responsiveness, I doubt he'll be happy with yet another remote provider. Considering google apps are best in class, I'm not sure anything but a local approach would work here.

>so there is no need for a local installation.

At the very least, bossman would have to spring for some Office licenses. Oh, and probably a TS server and other toys so Joe Worker can work from home.

Maybe office365 would work better for them? On /r/sysadmin its nothing but horror stories though. Also who do you fire when they lose all your data or you can't get mail for a week? MS's techs will be happy to write "please do the needful" helpdesk responses and laugh because you're such small potatoes to them.

Re: New Google Sheets: faster, more powerful, and works offline

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Post by [deleted] »

thefallsman wrote: post #145
cglee wrote: post #49

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This is how a disruptive technology starts. Google Apps doesn't have to be better, but the idea is that one day, you'll find Google Apps "good enough", with all the benefits of being online (and now offline, too). You're just on the higher end of the power-user curve, but your "good enough" day is approaching.

I agree completely. Google apps have already come a long way. Even right out of the box, I liked the spreadsheet functionality. Excel is great for complex projects but for simple data storage, I find docs to be easier to use. I believe they were the first to auto sum columns in the bottom right hand corner, a feature which excel later added (feel free to correct me if i'm wrong). Something simple like this can be gre…

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Re: New Google Sheets: faster, more powerful, and works offline

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Post by VikingCoder »

csmuk wrote: post #169
VikingCoder wrote: post #167

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Ah, foolish me, I thought I could find a revision history from within a document. It takes about 5 seconds to change which revision I'm looking at, in a 30-line document. And it doesn't actually show me which lines changed. This is still useless.

Fair enough - they should probably add this. I'm not getting a 5 second delay here. It's instant (~0.5 seconds). You're right about the changes not being marked up, although it does do this on Office 365 so perhaps it's a market segregation thing.

...and can I seriously not search the contents of documents from SkyDrive?

Re: New Google Sheets: faster, more powerful, and works offline

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Post by rayshan »

CatMtKing wrote: post #118
newrui wrote: post #92

Do feeds still work like they used to via the same APIs? I'm not able to get a json feed out via a link like before for some reason.

They don't :(. Stick with the previous format if you need API support. https://support.google.com/drive/answer/3543688

Thanks for this, super helpful. Let's hope they add things back in like Apple.

Re: New Google Sheets: faster, more powerful, and works offline

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Post by louthy »

jodrellblank wrote: post #172
kyrra wrote: post #135

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I went from a fully MS Office company, to a different company that used Google Apps, which was recently bought by another company that uses MS Office (that we are now moving to). I've had extensive experience with both products at this point. ===Outlook vs Gmail=== Outlook has a lot of things going for it. One of my main complaints is the functionality difference between the PC and OSX versions of Outlook. Outlook on…

=== Word vs Docs === I'd say the only way Google wins in this is collaboration. Being able to work on the same document with multiple people at the same time is such an amazing feature, I'm sad to lose it. You can collaboratively edit Word documents in Word 2010 and SharePoint: http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/word-help/video-coauthorin... Also works in OneNote. OneNote can do it without SharePoint, I don't know whe…

Also does collaboration through skydive I think.

Re: New Google Sheets: faster, more powerful, and works offline

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Post by staticfish »

csmuk wrote: post #77
DominikR wrote: post #60

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> If you want to pay for it you get a crap load more from O365. Might be true, but Google Docs has more than enough features for me so I'm not going to pay for O365. And I am surely not going to use a WP8 handset as long as the ecosystem is so poor compared to Apple's App Store/Google Play.

The ecosystem was poor. It's pretty good now. In fact Nokia HERE is a killer that wipes the floor with all other platforms. Who the hell needs 100,000 iOS fart apps anyway.

I don't know if you just really like the platform, or you're on Microsoft's payroll (as this is HN, I'm guessing the second), but you're coming across as the hard-shill.
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