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How to intern in Silicon Valley with a J1 visa

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Re: How to intern in Silicon Valley with a J1 visa

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Having recently returned back to school after an 8mo internship in SF on a J1, your write-up sounds pretty much spot on! I'll make sure this gets added to our school's collection of documentation that gets sent out to co-ops going to SF/NY/etc. each term.

A couple of things worth mentioning, though:

- Rent at $1k/mo for rent is (now) hard to find unless you're living in a living room or a slum. Prices for my friends ranged from $1300(decent place w/ 2+ roomates) - $2000+(nice studio)

- We all had pretty decent experience staying in a student hotel/hostel upon immediately arriving in SF rather than relying on an airbnb or related. Places like the Herbert Hotel (http://theherberthotel.com/) are ~$1100/mo (can't confirm weekly/nightly rate) and are a great place to settle at first, but you shouldn't bank on staying there for long. Bonus: you've got a "hotel" booked once you arrive in SF (customs loves to hear this).

- As soon as you get to SF, join the ~"bay area interns group" on Facebook, invite the entire (2K+) group out for dinner wit hone post, and instantly meet 15+ new friends at once. It's definitely the best collection of smart, talented, cool kids I've ever come across and everyone is working on something cool (usually outside of work, too).

- Here's another great write up (targeted at UWaterloo co-ops, but still applicable): http://stephenholiday.com/Unofficial-Waterloo-USA-Intern-Gui...

Most importantly: someone PLEASE build a better product for visa sponsor companies (Intrax for me, CIEE/local rep for you) to streamline the J1 (and other visas, I'm sure) application process. I have never had a more frustrating experience going back and forth via email with so many different people at my sponsor company, having to upload identification and documents, print/fill out/scan/send forms, and bug them for the status of my visa application. The application fee was something my host company paid for without hesitation and would have paid more for to streamline. I've looked into this problem and would have built it myself if it weren't for the bureaucratic requirements req'd by the US gov't (which are fair, just hard to MVP) - ping me if you are interested in solving this problem :)

Re: How to intern in Silicon Valley with a J1 visa

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An amusing aside - from the Exchange Visitor Host Site Handbook which is sent to supervisors of J1 program participants:

Signs of Cultural Adjustment Issues

“This country is really stupid…” - A common statement from trainees who are seeing a cultural trait of the United States through the experience of their own culture, not that of the U.S. A response might be, “Why do you suppose we’ve done that for the last 200 years?”

“English doesn’t have enough words…” - A common statement from trainees who cannot find a way to express emotions that are described in their native language, but not shared by the Anglo cultures.

“All I want to do is sleep…” – A common statement of depression brought on by the overload of change.

“I’m gaining a lot of weight…” – The change in food often results in weight gain. It is often difficult for trainees to understand how to use local and different foods for a healthy diet.

“Americans ask ‘How are you doing, but don’t really want to know…”– An accurate and common observation that may indicate the trainee is understanding what is said literally, but not hearing the underlying or cultural meaning.

“Why should I celebrate your holiday; I’m not American…” – A common attitude that could indicate the trainee is suffering a bit of cultural identity crisis.

Re: How to intern in Silicon Valley with a J1 visa

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>get at least $4k/mo to manage without savings I'd love a $24/hr development position. Interns these days are getting paid too well. I interned for half as much and I'm not making much more.

Many larger companies pay experienced interns fairly close to what they pay new graduates, which can easily end up being $40+ / hour.

Re: How to intern in Silicon Valley with a J1 visa

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Nice to see some talk on this subject other than about the notorious H-1B

The reason is that J-1s are very easy to obtain if you have a willing sponsor. There are companies that are setup to grant J-1s as a business.

You can easily do everything without a lawyer too. I paid for my initial 4 month work-travel visa for ~$400 USD.

H1B is a whole other story...

Re: How to intern in Silicon Valley with a J1 visa

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The H3 visa is a visa granted to "temporary trainees" for a government approved trainee program. You are expected to return back to your home country after it is finished and the program can be no more than 2 years. However you can parlay this into an H1B.

An L visa also works if the company has an office in the country you are from.

Re: How to intern in Silicon Valley with a J1 visa

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm aware of the Trainee program but little short on details as nobody I know has done it. Do you know if the requirements differ much or if there's any restrictions? Happy to update the article, I'm also adding a mention about Two Year Rule (212e) as it can affect future visas.

I did the J-1 trainee program for 18 months and went into an H1B from that. It was ideal for me because I came right out of school without work experience and it made the process very easy. One downside was that I had to stay in the US between filing for H1B status and receiving it (you file in the spring, but get the status on October 1st) because the H1B is a dual intent visa (meaning you can state that you want to…

The J1 trainee program sounds really interesting (as I'm currently out of education for > 12 months and therefore ineligible for the J1 intern program).

According to the j1visa.state.gov site one of the requirements for the J1 trainee program is:

"Has five years of work experience outside the United States in the occupational field in which they are seeking training"

Did you meet this criteria or manage to circumvent it?

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