Ok, my name is Leo and I'm an Android developer. In 2000 I actually investigated the potential of dynamic ride sharing and came to the conclusion it is not feasible due to software being in the hands of the network and device providers. Later, when Android and iOS came along I had other stuff to do but noticed how many tried to enter in this market and my conclusion is still that you would have to seed it in a way th…
Leo the Homeless Coder Finished His App, and You Can Download It Right Now
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Re: Leo the Homeless Coder Finished His App, and You Can Download It Right Now
#92Writing phone apps is a pretty bad way to go about making a living. Getting a real coding job, much better, not a guarantee of anything though.
Re: Leo the Homeless Coder Finished His App, and You Can Download It Right Now
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From your perspective, what should McConlogue do or have done differently? He's obviously going to benefit from the exposure but I don't see any evidence that he's throwing Leo under the bus in the process. It seems like a mutual gain to me, compared to a do-nothing approach. If the news story were "Leo goes back to square one after software engineer ditches him after getting publicity" then it would be a different s…
Why the choice is between exploitation vs. do-nothing? Why not the old-school approach? Interview experienced professionals in the area (people who actually work with homeless people) and then interview homeless people in order to find out what are the problems they face, then design a repeatable and sustainable plan and implement it. I'm not accusing McConlogue to throw Leo under the bus. I am accusing McConlogue to…
There's more than one way to skin a cat. People do methods A, B, and C all the time. This guy is trying method D, and doesn't seem to be gunning for repeatable or sustainable or "solve the homeless problem in one fell swoop". He comes across as arrogant and out-of-touch on his blog but he's basically got the dude's back. IMO, at the end of the day all of that adds up to a good thing.
Also, I've worked with some NGOs and I've found them to be generally ineffective at solving problems but great at making volunteers feel good about themselves so the last place I'd want to go if I wanted to understand homelessness would be aid workers, and the first place would be some reading, my own instincts, and working with one individual homeless person. I personally like the "ballsy n=1 experiment" approach he's taking - even though his language makes him come across as kind of a dick.
Also, he is making a real sacrifice - one in terms of time/effort teaching him to code, and two in terms of reputation/job risk. If Leo fails, or if the media twists it the wrong way, McConlogue looks like a jackass and he seems smart enough to understand that.
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I have a very close family member who went missing and eventually was found homeless. In the course of the investigation we found that several people exploited and took advantage of him for personal gain. If you study the issue (like we did) you will find that this is a common and recurring problem, as homeless people are mentally vulnerable and open to narcissistic individuals. Nothing against helping others -- I my…
This might sound obvious - but he was really teaching the man to catch fish, rather than feed him with it. He might turn out to be good, or bad fishermen, but at least he's trying. I leave money to homeless people, but I do it since it makes me feel good. I do it for me first (to be honest), then for them. I wish I have the dedication to do what this young man did, because I often think how cool it would be, but I en…
Somewhere along the line he helped make the world aware of his own actions.
Re: Leo the Homeless Coder Finished His App, and You Can Download It Right Now
#95What a perfect week to launch the story in. Anyone can learn how to code once they put their mind to it.
Hmm.
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#96I hate this story. It's pure exploitation. Firstly, and most importantly, Leo is still homeless. Second, who the hell is Patrick McConlogue? This whole charade is like the film Trading Places, it's like those awful Bum Fights videos, it's Patrick using a homeless person as an object of amusement. Some aspects of the story seem implausible, e.g. how does a homeless person afford to pay the developer fees, or supply a…
>Finally, nobody seems to be talking about Leo's homelessness and how he's going to survive a bitterly cold winter, If everyone keeps talking about Leo and his app, he'll have more than enough money to get off the streets, assuming his homelessness wasn't caused by mental illness or addiction.
However, if people are only buying the app out of charity for Leo, it's no different than any other sad story which gets media attention resulting in charitable donations.
So what would the point have been of learning to code? Heck, the story might as well have been Leo getting taught a foreign language so he could do translation work over the internet via sites like CrowdFlower.
The idea that homeless people can code their way out of a terrible situation, when well-fed, pampered and experienced programmers can't even make decent money from the app store, is simply a farce.
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Dude get out of this thread now, so many of these comments are infuriating. This is possibly the worst HN thread I have ever read.
Have you ever read a thread about gender issues? It's worse. Side note: I appreciate the concern over whether this is exploitative. It doesn't make me mad. If you've read the stories, it hasn't been at ALL or even close, but the concern is fine.
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#98Homelessness is a serious and complex issue rooted in mental health and poverty, and the "mentor" behind the homeless coder reduced it to a game, just to show that all one needs to succeed is the patronizing goodwill of some privileged narcissistic clown. Stories like this are actually a disservice to the cause of technology as an agent for social and environmental change.
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That would be a donation to Apple or Google then. If you really cared, you'd take real action.
Don't tell people how to care. God I hate this comment so much, care however you want. Care a little bit and give him $0.70, care a lot and try to something, care any way you want.
Re: Leo the Homeless Coder Finished His App, and You Can Download It Right Now
#100I hate this story. It's pure exploitation. Firstly, and most importantly, Leo is still homeless. Second, who the hell is Patrick McConlogue? This whole charade is like the film Trading Places, it's like those awful Bum Fights videos, it's Patrick using a homeless person as an object of amusement. Some aspects of the story seem implausible, e.g. how does a homeless person afford to pay the developer fees, or supply a…