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Re: Ubuntu Touch OS wins its first smartphone partner

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Post by simbolit »

coldtea wrote: post #14
r-s wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They are simply wrong on this.

Nope, they are very right. In fact, it was even earlier too, e.g all around 1999/2004, when Linux was discussed to win the Desktop "any day now". There were even desktop targeted Linux distros backed by companies such as Corel, startups working on Linux desktop/office desktop stuff (like the Evolution email client or the Nautilus file browser), and skyrocketing Linux IPOs (VA Linux anyone). Plus several attempts at r…

Yes, i remember that in 99 Linux was all the Linux was all the rage and doing something with Linux would shoot VC dollars toward you startup.

Re: Ubuntu Touch OS wins its first smartphone partner

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Post by winslow »

coldtea wrote: post #14
r-s wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They are simply wrong on this.

Nope, they are very right. In fact, it was even earlier too, e.g all around 1999/2004, when Linux was discussed to win the Desktop "any day now". There were even desktop targeted Linux distros backed by companies such as Corel, startups working on Linux desktop/office desktop stuff (like the Evolution email client or the Nautilus file browser), and skyrocketing Linux IPOs (VA Linux anyone). Plus several attempts at r…

True, RedHat had a massive IPO if I recall. Yeah VA linux IPO ouch - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:LNUX.png

Red Hat went public on August 11, 1999, achieving the eighth-biggest first-day gain in the history of Wall Street.[0]

So maybe in a business sense Linux had a better standing versus windows back then compared to current day.

[0] - http://www.redhat.com/about/corporate/timeline.html

Re: Ubuntu Touch OS wins its first smartphone partner

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Post by voltagex_ »

georgemcbay wrote: post #8
programminggeek wrote: post #5

This would be amazing on a device like the Moto G or something similar. If they get this in the sub $200 or sub $100 price point with reasonable performance, it could be a real big deal.

They should be able to hit the sub-$200 price point with one of their hardware partners, but that is hardly a differentiator these days now that the Moto G and the Lumia 520 are already there for Android and Windows Phone. I'm personally mildly excited for the idea of a "real" Linux phone, if it carries out the concept of being a phone that can be used in desktop/laptop docks (which various people have attempted with…

Don't the planned Ubuntu Touch phones (and the current Dev builds) run a modified Cyanogen kernel and a bionic-linked userland? (i.e. Android in Ubuntu-brown)?

As far as I'm concerned, the next Linux phone is the Jolla.

Re: Ubuntu Touch OS wins its first smartphone partner

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Post by kllrnohj »

georgemcbay wrote: post #10
winslow wrote: post #7

"Shuttleworth founded Canonical in 2004, back in the day when Linux on the desktop was, if not exactly a contender, at least a more widely discussed alternative to Windows PCs than it is today." I feel like Linux is a better contender now then it was in 2004. Or am I just in a "developers tech savvy world" and viewing linux as a viable contender now compared to the typical layman?

It was discussed (in tech media) much more back then ("This is the year of Linux on the desktop!" used in a non-sarcastic manner), but you're right in that it is actually more viable today than it was then, mostly due to Microsoft shooting itself in both feet in the interim. It is still unlikely Linux will achieve any sort of mainstream adoption (for a few reasons, including Ubuntu following a very Microsoft-like pol…

Linux went mainstream ages ago. First with TiVo, now with Android.

GNU/Linux + X11 + Gnome/KDE never went anywhere near mainstream, perhaps, but Linux sure as hell did.

Re: Ubuntu Touch OS wins its first smartphone partner

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Post by TkTech »

wcfields wrote: post #22
jolohaga wrote: post #11

Can't wait for a BSD phone

They already exist, there's a small fruit-named company that happens to make them.

Are you thinking of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bada ? I've never heard of a purpose-built BSD phone other than those (although there are plenty of unofficial ports)

Re: Ubuntu Touch OS wins its first smartphone partner

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Post by catinsocks »

hollerith wrote: post #15
derefr wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wouldn't be surprised if Linux achieved a majority-share in the Desktop PC market... caused by the Desktop PC becoming completely irrelevant to consumers. (If only developers own PCs, and the majority of developers use Linux, then the majority of PCs will run Linux.)

In polls here, more respondents report running OS X than report running Linux on their desktops and laptops. So, it is uncertain whether it will ever be the case that the majority of devs use Linux although I guess there's a good chance of it happening if Apple ever decides to abandon the desktop / laptop market.

That or if someone invests heavily enough into building a coherent linux desktop.

There are a lot of great things about linux and some of the desktops are quite good (gnome 3.4+, kde) but they just aren't quite there with the small glitches and annoyances that come up just often enough to be off putting for end users.

I think linux or another free OS needs a huge backing to make it mainstream and we may see that with android (or something in a similar vein) in the future but for now the desktop is left Apple and Microsoft

Re: Ubuntu Touch OS wins its first smartphone partner

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Post by ac29 »

TkTech wrote: post #26
wcfields wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They already exist, there's a small fruit-named company that happens to make them.

Are you thinking of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bada ? I've never heard of a purpose-built BSD phone other than those (although there are plenty of unofficial ports)

iOS is based on OS X/Darwin which is in turn based on BSD.

Re: Ubuntu Touch OS wins its first smartphone partner

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Post by Arelius »

ac29 wrote: post #28
TkTech wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you thinking of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bada ? I've never heard of a purpose-built BSD phone other than those (although there are plenty of unofficial ports)

iOS is based on OS X/Darwin which is in turn based on BSD.

Darwin itself uses very little BSD code. It's built on Mach. OS X does however import much of the BSD userland, but I don't even know if much of that makes it into iOS.

I think it'd be a fair guess to say that iOS likely contains very little BSD Unix code.

Re: Ubuntu Touch OS wins its first smartphone partner

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Post by mekkz »

TkTech wrote: post #26
wcfields wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They already exist, there's a small fruit-named company that happens to make them.

Are you thinking of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bada ? I've never heard of a purpose-built BSD phone other than those (although there are plenty of unofficial ports)

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