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New US spy satellite logo features world-devouring octopus

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Re: New US spy satellite logo features world-devouring octopus

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> It implies the agency is insular, unaccountable, and has an aggressive, secret agenda You're giving these people way too much credit. Military and intelligence patches are all about bravado and "USA #1" not some sophisticated and cryptic critique of their employer. I've had a long time interest in this stuff and let me tell you, its all tasteless and dumb, with the occasional touch of humor. The patch critical of t…

It's certainly not a critique. To me it shows that the people in the agency are oblivious to the rest of the world outside of the agency. There have been a bunch of embarrassing revelations about domestic and foreign spying, but instead of being embarrassed or ashamed like they should be, they're as gung-ho and bold as ever. It's no wonder there have been so many slip ups when they're so clueless about public percept…

> To me it shows that the people in the agency are oblivious to the rest of the world outside of the agency.

It's fairly well-established that this is by design.

Re: New US spy satellite logo features world-devouring octopus

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Link-baity title, but warranted, I'd say. The story is that the government is launching a spy satellite with a logo on it featuring a "mascot" -- a giant Kraken-like octopus taking over the planet. Whoever created it could only have been thinking of their bureau's unchecked ability to do what it wanted and not the public's perception of it because the creature, especially its eye, looks menacing, ominous, foreboding,…

It does look menacing and ominous, but it's only supposed to be used against them . Whether you agree with it or not, it's the premise widely shared by Americans and those in the intelligence agencies and in the military. It renders your following implication inaccurate: "It implies the agency is insular, unaccountable, and has an aggressive, secret agenda it cares about more than anything else, certainly more than y…

The question remains, who is them?

Someone once said, "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it," but I don't know who.

Re: New US spy satellite logo features world-devouring octopus

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Link-baity title, but warranted, I'd say. The story is that the government is launching a spy satellite with a logo on it featuring a "mascot" -- a giant Kraken-like octopus taking over the planet. Whoever created it could only have been thinking of their bureau's unchecked ability to do what it wanted and not the public's perception of it because the creature, especially its eye, looks menacing, ominous, foreboding,…

Indeed. As the article points out, it's all very super-villainy. They're not even trying to pretend they're the good guys anymore.

You've never played an MMO, have you? There is a huge, huge overlap between the people who like being villains and the people who like being good guys.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/GoodIsNotNice?fro...

Re: New US spy satellite logo features world-devouring octopus

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Doesn't seem all that surprising, these kinds of things have been around for years: http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2010/11/secret-insignias-fro... http://vigilantcitizen.com/vigilantreport/top-10-most-sinist... Patches seem more like a game of one-upmanship. I do like this patch's story, sounds just like something a bunch of engineers would come up with: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3c/NROL49_pa..…

One of the best all time patches: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No._617_Squadron_RAF The so-called "Dambusters" motto was "Apres moi les deluge"

Which for those of us who don't know French... "After me, the flood"

Re: New US spy satellite logo features world-devouring octopus

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Yes, it's a ballsy logo, but on the other hand... Wikipedia tells us that NROL-39's payload is actually a Topaz synthetic aperture radar (SAR) node, flying in constellation with two others already in operation, and two more to come. This is essentially not-at-all-threatening to civil liberties, being a ground-elevation mapping platform (and to a second order, some degree of surface roughness), of not particularly goo…

Thanks

The previous-generation Larcosse radint satellites were capable of vehicle-sized resolution and were also tasked with post-strike damage assessment. Before-and-after action radar imagery could be collected regardless of cloud cover.

Re: New US spy satellite logo features world-devouring octopus

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

This reminds me of a relevant Mitchell ans Webb clip, "Are we the baddies?". As an American, I'm having trouble deciding if if we are at this point. Edited to add clip: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qv2XGQBcvxQ

Yes. We are the baddies. Have been for a while.

yep, still are, and looking at that mascot, that will not change anytime soon :P

Re: New US spy satellite logo features world-devouring octopus

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

This reminds me of a relevant Mitchell ans Webb clip, "Are we the baddies?". As an American, I'm having trouble deciding if if we are at this point. Edited to add clip: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qv2XGQBcvxQ

I've been wondering the same thing. We used to use this image to portray our enemies... https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ba42Z0lCMAAfkzM.jpg http://iranpoliticsclub.net/politics/IRI-problem/images/Iran... http://streetsofsalem.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/octopus-ge... http://streetsofsalem.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/octopus-ma...

http://www.picturehistory.com/product/id/4453

Re: New US spy satellite logo features world-devouring octopus

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The military/spy agencies are not concerned about being politically correct. This is sort of a tradition, if you look at missile projects they all have logos like these and are called things like "reapers" etc... If we start seeing this on the White House seal I'll be concerned.

I worked on the camera team for LRO. In the control room at Goddard they had (have?) a custom made Jolly Roger hanging. None of us were actually pirates, and none of us advocated actual pirate values.

Of all the issues with surveillance, I can't believe this story is getting any oxygen.

Re: New US spy satellite logo features world-devouring octopus

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Link-baity title, but warranted, I'd say. The story is that the government is launching a spy satellite with a logo on it featuring a "mascot" -- a giant Kraken-like octopus taking over the planet. Whoever created it could only have been thinking of their bureau's unchecked ability to do what it wanted and not the public's perception of it because the creature, especially its eye, looks menacing, ominous, foreboding,…

> It implies the agency is insular, unaccountable, and has an aggressive, secret agenda You're giving these people way too much credit. Military and intelligence patches are all about bravado and "USA #1" not some sophisticated and cryptic critique of their employer. I've had a long time interest in this stuff and let me tell you, its all tasteless and dumb, with the occasional touch of humor. The patch critical of t…

This article has examples of other patches, as you mention: http://motherboard.vice.com/blog/why-the-us-launched-a-spy-r...
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