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Re: Google Data centers

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Post by seagrass » Tue, Dec 10, 2013, 3:48 PM UTC

alphakappa wrote: post #7

These are beautiful pictures, but it was hard to navigate. 'Go Inside' for example, would dump in the middle of a gallery of images, making me think that I had missed the thumbnails at the beginning. Having a button in the middle of these images was also weird (as is having to click something just to see what the images are about. There's plenty of screen real-estate to show the image caption). Also strange is that t…

  'Go Inside' for example, would dump in the middle of a gallery of images, making me think that I had missed the thumbnails at the beginning.

Complaining for the sake of complaining? When you hover over "Go Inside" it says "View all photos," so isn't that its exact intention? Plus what are you talking about "missed the thumbnails"?

Re: Google Data centers

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Post by miu9089 » Tue, Dec 10, 2013, 3:50 PM UTC

ceejayoz wrote: post #9

miu9089 wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How endearing. Are you aware of recent reports in the news? http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/jun/06/us-tech-giants-... Please think twice before using a Google service.

I'm reasonably certain everyone on HN is aware of these particular "recent reports in the news".

You'd be surprised. Recently posters on HN have commented that Google weren't involved with the NSA (using denial quotes from Google staff, as though they carry any weight), and that the NSA only had access via the fiber itself.

Some here seem unaware of the direct access Google provided to their systems.

Re: Google Data centers

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Post by miu9089 » Tue, Dec 10, 2013, 3:52 PM UTC

SmileyKeith wrote: post #10

miu9089 wrote: post #4

Hmm... no mention here of how NSA are granted direct access to Google data. The website must need updating. A shiny website can't gloss over Google's close collusion with the NSA as revealed by The Guardian. Their desperate PR attempts will backfire until they make public and clear statements to improve their transparency.

What is this odd form of spam?

Mentioning the duplicitous activity of Google in a story about their data centers is very much on-topic. I heavily suspect you work for Google.

Re: Google Data centers

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Post by nemesisj » Tue, Dec 10, 2013, 4:01 PM UTC

Heh - one of those data centers (Lenoir) was the focus of quite a bit of optimism in the Piedmont area of North Carolina a few years ago. I can't find the news articles, but essentially, massive tax benefits were provided to Google and they built their data center and proceeded to hire like 4 people, b/c, you know, it's not a factory. This was apparently a surprise to everyone who thought a new googleplex was somehow in the works (or maybe this was just wishful thinking). I'm not really sure what the moral of the story is because there are probably hundreds of similar backwater towns in the USA that would line up to offer the same benefits.

Re: Google Data centers

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Post by jrockway » Tue, Dec 10, 2013, 4:02 PM UTC

miu9089 wrote: post #13

SmileyKeith wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What is this odd form of spam?

Mentioning the duplicitous activity of Google in a story about their data centers is very much on-topic. I heavily suspect you work for Google.

-11 karma points in only 43 minutes of existence. Good work.

Re: Google Data centers

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Post by ceejayoz » Tue, Dec 10, 2013, 4:02 PM UTC

miu9089 wrote: post #12

ceejayoz wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm reasonably certain everyone on HN is aware of these particular "recent reports in the news".

You'd be surprised. Recently posters on HN have commented that Google weren't involved with the NSA (using denial quotes from Google staff, as though they carry any weight), and that the NSA only had access via the fiber itself. Some here seem unaware of the direct access Google provided to their systems.

Sounds like you haven't been reading the news you're encouraging others to look at. Google's willing cooperation appears to be limited to what was known already - national security letters and the like. Those are problematic on Fourth Amendment grounds, but we've known for about a decade about them.

Google seem pretty peeved over stuff like the taps.

Re: Google Data centers

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Post by mikeyouse » Tue, Dec 10, 2013, 4:05 PM UTC

nemesisj wrote: post #14

Heh - one of those data centers (Lenoir) was the focus of quite a bit of optimism in the Piedmont area of North Carolina a few years ago. I can't find the news articles, but essentially, massive tax benefits were provided to Google and they built their data center and proceeded to hire like 4 people, b/c, you know, it's not a factory. This was apparently a surprise to everyone who thought a new googleplex was somehow…

$212 million in incentives for a three-hundred-billion dollar company, ugh.

http://www.businessweek.com/stories/2007-07-22/the-high-cost...

Re: Google Data centers

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Post by codfrantic » Tue, Dec 10, 2013, 4:08 PM UTC

Most of these pictures have been online for a while, I specifically remember that this[⊗] one was photoshopped because the machines in the racks left and right are mirror images of one another...

[⊗]https://www.google.com/about/datacenters/gallery/#/all/23

Re: Google Data centers

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Post by deelowe » Tue, Dec 10, 2013, 4:11 PM UTC

nemesisj wrote: post #14

Heh - one of those data centers (Lenoir) was the focus of quite a bit of optimism in the Piedmont area of North Carolina a few years ago. I can't find the news articles, but essentially, massive tax benefits were provided to Google and they built their data center and proceeded to hire like 4 people, b/c, you know, it's not a factory. This was apparently a surprise to everyone who thought a new googleplex was somehow…

They hired quite a bit more than 4 people and there are positions open currently.

Re: Google Data centers

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Post by alphakappa » Tue, Dec 10, 2013, 4:13 PM UTC

seagrass wrote: post #11

alphakappa wrote: post #7

These are beautiful pictures, but it was hard to navigate. 'Go Inside' for example, would dump in the middle of a gallery of images, making me think that I had missed the thumbnails at the beginning. Having a button in the middle of these images was also weird (as is having to click something just to see what the images are about. There's plenty of screen real-estate to show the image caption). Also strange is that t…

'Go Inside' for example, would dump in the middle of a gallery of images, making me think that I had missed the thumbnails at the beginning. Complaining for the sake of complaining? When you hover over "Go Inside" it says "View all photos," so isn't that its exact intention? Plus what are you talking about "missed the thumbnails"?

>> Complaining for the sake of complaining?

No.

>> When you hover over "Go Inside" it says "View all photos," so isn't that its exact intention?

I'm not sure I even realized what happens when you hover over it. I clicked it and it scrolled past a bunch of thumbnails, showed me a spinner for a while, and then showed me an image. It didn't give me the feeling that I was seeing the first image in the thumbnail list (Maybe it was, but giving proper context is important). To provide context, expand the image in place, or show a lightbox, or show the large image with some thumbnails so I still know that I'm looking at the first image.