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There is no such hostility.
Way to generate a conversation around a topic where you provide no hard evidence of any of the claims you're making.
Here's a popular black coder: https://twitter.com/seanlilmateus
Here's a popular woman coder: https://twitter.com/ericasadun
I'm commenting here as a response to a few posts that highlight my use of the word "hostile" - a somewhat inflammatory word but my time in the journalism world taught me to bait clicks.... c: I wouldn't say -hostile- in the sense that there's an active conscious attempt to bar women and people of color from computer science, what I mean is that in the computer science world there's an underlying structure which is ra…
I think the underlying question should be, "Why are fewer and fewer women are attracted to the field?"
This is bullshit. There is no such hostility. Way to generate a conversation around a topic where you provide no hard evidence of any of the claims you're making. Here's a popular black coder: https://twitter.com/seanlilmateus Here's a popular woman coder: https://twitter.com/ericasadun
see this comment: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6879195
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Your attitude is childish and short-sighted. When certain groups are -by default- disadvantaged compared to a dominant group, just saying "go do work like I did" - is meaningless.
Really ? On systems where people are essentially identified by their email adress and/or username ? Why don't you tell me. One of these is female (and pretty accomplished in the open source community), one of these is non-white ... which is which ? * thegrendel.abs * tille * pgquilles If you can't, obviously the reason is not just racism. On mailinglists, github and irc, skin color and sex don't exist. If there is a…
http://www.cnn.com/2009/TECH/science/10/13/social.networking... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Online_segregation
I didn't realized there were any hostility to women and/or black people.
For women, I don't see it. I have tons of female friends that are programmers.
As for black people... two of my friends are black, one of them is female. And they've never complain about racism in their work force. I've worked with one black person and that person played the victim card a lot, that's another story in itself entirely, but other than that.
I haven't see any hostility against women or black people.
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What I do see is the gender imbalance in CS major in education. Also there are far less black people in education but I'm not sure what's the driving factor is. It could be population wise, economic reason, etc...
Wut? I didn't realized there were any hostility to women and/or black people. For women, I don't see it. I have tons of female friends that are programmers. As for black people... two of my friends are black, one of them is female. And they've never complain about racism in their work force. I've worked with one black person and that person played the victim card a lot, that's another story in itself entirely, but ot…
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6879195
Or do some research on computer science demographics.
http://learncodethehardway.org/ http://ruby.railstutorial.org/ http://mitpress.mit.edu/sicp/full-text/book/book.html There. That should do it--for our part, we'll try to be friendly. What more do you want? EDIT: http://railsgirls.com/ is actually pretty great to be fair.
I decided that I wanted a new career in programming. I learned Rails through Michael Hartl's (wonderful) tutorial. Several months later, I had a job as a programmer. My being female has never, ever come up. In fact, of the five programmers in my shop, two are female. Any interested party can learn the skills, and then all you have to do is find someone you can help. There's a huge demand for programming skills, but a…
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To clarify, check my recent comment: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6879195
you're citing statistics without proof of their relevance to this discussion. by hostility, it seems that you actually mean "Why do blacks and women represent a minority in computer science?" Computer science has always been an inbetween between engineering and hard sciences--because of that many laymen were employed to do menial computer tasks early in history. This was, perhaps , one of the first chances for laymen…
Honestly though, that's irrelevant because WHERE they're going is not what I'm addressing. It's WHY, and HOW can we reverse the trend of anti-diversification in the computer industry? If they're leaving for other industries, even scientific ones, there's nothing wrong with the individuals choice but there's something less-desirable about the computer industry, and I doubt it has anything to do with the raw content of a computer related job.
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I was about to reply to the original post but thank-you for editing and clarifying a bit. I have to say, though, even if your first paragraph is true, do you have any empirical evidence that native African language speakers have a harder time with computer science than native speakers of other non-English languages? Secondly, when looking at those of African descent who were not specifically born and raised speaking…
Stop worrying about computer science specifically -- it's no different in engineering fields, and worse in the sciences. The reasons are not specific to CS.