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Re: Facebook's AI lab

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Post by justaman »

tehf0x wrote: post #47
justaman wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The announcement of an organization who's revenue is based on advertising doing research into AI deeply scares me. Take a look at this MIT study . Each day our corporation based government takes a step closer to 1984 and each day people become more and more apathetic and quick to change the subject at the first sign of the conversation. http://web.mit.edu/people/amliu/Papers/PentlandLiu_NeuralCom...

Umm what do you think google's revenue is based on?

Google's mission is "Dont be evil". They have since crossed this line, and will again. I do not trust google either.

Re: Facebook's AI lab

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Post by justaman »

jfoster wrote: post #58
yangtheman wrote: post #21

Am I the only one who is skeptical about this announcement? I am sure the amount of data Facebook has will be huge asset to any sort of AI development, but precisely because of the amount of data and the kinds of data they have, it's just scary what this could be used for... AI that has personal information of 500M+ people, using it to manipulate people...(first to click on advertisements, and then much more). In the…

Would facebook's data actually be useful to the NSA? I think they would get a lot more actionable data out of emails, SMSes, phone transcripts, accounting software, project management software, etc. The only thing I can imagine facebook being good for is perhaps knowing who they want to start looking at in the future. Search engine history might be more effective for that, though.

The point is, this data exists. The NSA has all of it. What are they doing with it? Probably nothing good.

Re: Facebook's AI lab

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Post by fat0wl »

mathattack wrote: post #57
fat0wl wrote: post #16

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Oh man that guy was my machine learning professor at NYU :) Sparked my interested in Lisp, but now I seem to recall that he wrote all the problem examples in his own language.... Lush. Even so, all my knowledge of Lisp syntax and neural nets stems from his bad-ass lectures

Forcing folks to learn his own language is a pretty big conceit. You think he'll be able to get away with that at Fbook?

yeh it was rough at the time but looking back, if i'd known lisp at all beforehand it wouldnt have been so bad. it was directly listed by many as a turn-off though and is a big part of why a lot of people from my dep't just audited

Re: Facebook's AI lab

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Post by eli_gottlieb »

justaman wrote: post #36
yangtheman wrote: post #21

Am I the only one who is skeptical about this announcement? I am sure the amount of data Facebook has will be huge asset to any sort of AI development, but precisely because of the amount of data and the kinds of data they have, it's just scary what this could be used for... AI that has personal information of 500M+ people, using it to manipulate people...(first to click on advertisements, and then much more). In the…

The announcement of an organization who's revenue is based on advertising doing research into AI deeply scares me. Take a look at this MIT study . Each day our corporation based government takes a step closer to 1984 and each day people become more and more apathetic and quick to change the subject at the first sign of the conversation. http://web.mit.edu/people/amliu/Papers/PentlandLiu_NeuralCom...

That was published in 1999 and we still don't have pre-crime reporting security cameras flagging me everywhere I go.

Just saying.

Re: Facebook's AI lab

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Post by stokedmartin »

TrainedMonkey wrote: post #30
swalsh wrote: post #10

The AI facebook has today is already freaky to me at times... while I love any new advancement in AI, these advancements will probably not be used in my interests.

Value of Facebook consists of two things, you and your data. It is not good for long term strategy of Facebook to hurt either. Here are some things where smart AI could help: 1. Better filtering of spam bots. 2. Better filtering of ads that would significantly improve ad quality. 3. Smart assistant that learns your habits and makes smart suggestions such as: which events to attend, your writing style, and filters imm…

>3. Smart assistant that learns your habits and makes smart suggestions such as: ...

Recognize your romantic partner using FB network[0]

[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6759866

Re: Facebook's AI lab

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Post by nl »

dnautics wrote: post #34
swalsh wrote: post #10

The AI facebook has today is already freaky to me at times... while I love any new advancement in AI, these advancements will probably not be used in my interests.

although I agree - it might be worth considering it's creepy because of the uncanny valley

Uncanny Valley doesn't really happen with AI on the internet.

People are already used to people saying and doing dumb things online, so something that is nearly "smart human like" is a big advance (on average).

Re: Facebook's AI lab

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Post by btown »

jekdoce wrote: post #32
btown wrote: post #25

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At NIPS now. There have been rumors going around that Zuckerberg might have just been interested in attending, giving a casual Q&A, not announcing anything like this - but with this announcement, I foresee them having to take down all of the dividers in Harveys ;)

Could you post some bullet points of what was said there? Would be really appreciated by everyone I'm sure!

Unfortunately I didn't make it to his talks - was in other workshops where it would have been impolite to leave. Did get to see him as he was walking off stage though! More relevantly, though, many of my collaborators did attend the deep learning workshop, so I'll grill them about the details over dinner and post about it!
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