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Dell tells staff: If you haven't got stomach for private era, leave

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Re: Dell tells staff: If you haven't got stomach for private era, leave

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the first rule of employment: If someone offers you free money to leave? you take it.

You'd take the $2k vs. working at Zappos, or does the money have to be a material amount?

I don't think I'd walk away from Tesla or SpaceX for $100k. (I might walk from Tesla for "a Model S", IFF I thought I could still go back a few months later, but that's just gaming the system.)

Re: Dell tells staff: If you haven't got stomach for private era, leave

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the first rule of employment: If someone offers you free money to leave? you take it.

You're exactly the kind of person they are trying to get to leave -- someone who is only in it for the money and doesn't believe in the mission.

Re: Dell tells staff: If you haven't got stomach for private era, leave

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the first rule of employment: If someone offers you free money to leave? you take it.

You're exactly the kind of person they are trying to get to leave -- someone who is only in it for the money and doesn't believe in the mission.

In other words, the smart person who is not gonna stand for bullshit, and who is a professional that knows the end goal is creating value, not some BS "mission".

Re: Dell tells staff: If you haven't got stomach for private era, leave

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the first rule of employment: If someone offers you free money to leave? you take it.

You're exactly the kind of person they are trying to get to leave -- someone who is only in it for the money and doesn't believe in the mission.

Yup, and if you want to play mind games with your employees, and pretend like it's not a monetary relationship, then the feeling is mutual. I provide enough real value that I can get an employer who respects me enough to be honest and up-front.

We aren't family. Both of us are going to break off the relationship if we see a better deal.

If you want me to stick around because I think the company will be better X years from now? Give me a significant amount of underwater options, and a position where I have a chance to move the share price.

However, more relevant to this situation? Who do you think is going to take the cash and leave? Probably the people who can most easily get new jobs.

Now, I'm the first to point out that your ability to get a job does not 100% correlate with your competency, but there is certainly some correlation. Your company is going to be dramatically worse off if the people who have other options leave. If you have to let people go? you want to get rid of your bottom performers, not the top performers.

Re: Dell tells staff: If you haven't got stomach for private era, leave

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the first rule of employment: If someone offers you free money to leave? you take it.

You're exactly the kind of person they are trying to get to leave -- someone who is only in it for the money and doesn't believe in the mission.

I would love to hire people like you... people who are willing to take a paycut and small stock grants in order to fulfill my grand mission: to make myself as rich as possible.

Re: Dell tells staff: If you haven't got stomach for private era, leave

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the first rule of employment: If someone offers you free money to leave? you take it.

You'd take the $2k vs. working at Zappos, or does the money have to be a material amount? I don't think I'd walk away from Tesla or SpaceX for $100k. (I might walk from Tesla for "a Model S", IFF I thought I could still go back a few months later, but that's just gaming the system.)

not op, but "You'd take the $2k vs. working at Zappos, or does the money have to be a material amount?"

Isn't that part of the Zappos standard procedure and not an "event" like this? If I read lsc correctly, then if some event occurs where the company offers money / severance to leave, you are better off leaving. I don't know if anyone has stats on this scenario, but I'm inclined to think the recovery is the long odds bet.

Re: Dell tells staff: If you haven't got stomach for private era, leave

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the first rule of employment: If someone offers you free money to leave? you take it.

You'd take the $2k vs. working at Zappos, or does the money have to be a material amount? I don't think I'd walk away from Tesla or SpaceX for $100k. (I might walk from Tesla for "a Model S", IFF I thought I could still go back a few months later, but that's just gaming the system.)

I would /pay/ $2k to avoid working customer support for zappos. I'd pay rather more than that, in fact. Have you worked phone support? I only did so for a month, and it was probably the least pleasant job I've ever had.
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