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Google’s $179 Moto G puts every single cheap Android phone to shame

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Re: Google’s $179 Moto G puts every single cheap Android phone to shame

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Battery NOT User-Removable. Phone NOT User-Buyable.

To me this was a huge WTF? If they went to the trouble of making the back easily detachable, why did they deliberately do that? Almost feels like they're trolling the user: "Ha! Fooled you!"

Even more so when they officially refer to it as the "battery door" in the documentation! https://motorola-global-en-roe.custhelp.com/app/answers/prod...

Re: Google’s $179 Moto G puts every single cheap Android phone to shame

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post #46

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Apple vs Amazon models, both have their pros and cons.

Apple's strategy had them circling the drain for many years, with too little volume to build a decent supply chain and hit sane price points. They all but gave up on making open tools and moved down to crippled appliances, and even then I was honestly surprised they survived.

What you call "crippled appliances", other people call "things people want."

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post #127

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HN saw a problem with snide negativity, and has decided to solve it with mindless optimism and nasty remarks towards anyone who expresses criticism. See the Amazon drone thing. It's not a good solution.

Unsolicited comments telling people why they are going to hate their new device, particularly when they are side reasons rather than core functionality, isn't healthy criticism. It signals to me that the criticizer is looking for any and all opportunity/excuse to talk down about the device.

it is hardly unsolicited. If you don't want people to reply to your comment why are you posting?

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I don't understand why people in America are so keen to pay for expensive monthly plans. I pay $5-$10 dollars per month on average for my cellphone on prepay. It doesn't make sense all to buy a phone on plan.

Your problem is that you believe sensible plans are offered in the American market at all. Look at all the love people express for t-mobile's $30 / month plan. That's because it is leaps and bounds ahead of anything else you can get. In China, I pay about US$15 every 3-4 months for a level of texting and voice talk that would easily cost $30 / month by itself in the US. (I don't have a data plan.) I've tried going pr…

The irony of capitalism working better in China the the US is strong. What failed in the US? Under or over regulated? Or is it the lobbyists thing?

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Unsolicited comments telling people why they are going to hate their new device, particularly when they are side reasons rather than core functionality, isn't healthy criticism. It signals to me that the criticizer is looking for any and all opportunity/excuse to talk down about the device.

it is hardly unsolicited. If you don't want people to reply to your comment why are you posting?

Sorry, I think the term I was looking for was unsolicited criticism, not unsolicited comments.

Re: Google’s $179 Moto G puts every single cheap Android phone to shame

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Half price Firefox OS phones like the ZTE Open are more impressive and better for your freedom.

Google want your communications, thinking, location, habits... this is worse than Mastercard or Xperian issuing you a phone. It's fundamentally evil, regardless of how they dress it up.

Support Mozilla FirefoxOS and internet freedom.

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post #101

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default android phone sends your location to google, as well as your contacts, app list, app usage, calendars, todo list and some other things. You can disable a good part of it manually, thanksfully. Still, he sure has a point.. its not like if that data wasn't sent. It fucking is.

> default android phone sends your location to google, as well as your contacts, app list, app usage, calendars, todo list and some other things. By default it does none of those things. You have to hit "yes" to enable the location reporting which defaults to off but which you are asked to enable the first time you add a Google account. The rest isn't done at all unless you are using the Google services to sync that…

ever try to use an Android phone without a Google account?

know anybody that does?

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The fantastically inexpensive motoX has two flaws, and you're already down on it. Wonderful. It's good to know we should be unsatisfied by budget devices that don't have every single feature of a flagship device. After all, what kind of slob would be satisfied by a phone that doesn't do everything ?

Seems like you are confused. This is a tech site in which we're discussing technology, pros/cons of devices, etc. Not some religious forum promoting humbleness and gratitude.

Yes, but GP's comparison is moot, IMO: I'm sure the GGP knows that his $179 phone isn't going to blow anyone away in terms of camera potential. It came across as exactly like that typical "my phone is better than your phone" crap, even if it might not have been.

Also, I don't get his point about travel. It's got Quad-band HSDPA... honestly, that covers pretty much anywhere most people travel, or at least anywhere I've ever wanted to go. No-one uses 1700mhz for HSDPA apart from, what, T-Mobile in the US?

*shrugs

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hope you don't plan to travel. nexus 5 would work on most network. also get ready to be disappointed with the camera. even the motoX gets owned by old nokia phones. the sad thing about google/moto only churning out low end phones, is that we now will have to give in to weird rooting/unlocking if we want basic features, like a simple sd card or removable battery. i dread the day i have to abandon my old nexus and star…

Well I don't have an old Nokia, I have an old Samsung slider with a 2 MP camera, so for me there's nowhere to go but up. I, and I think most other people, are pretty easy to satisfy in that department anyway. Also, travel? Like, around the US? I think I'll be fine, plenty of people seem to get by with AT&T just fine, right? And when I go overseas I have no one to call, and usually don't want to be contacted (that's p…

It's Quad-band HSDPA, you'll be fine when travelling. It is missing 1700mhz, which is used by T-Mobile in the US (IIRC), and that's about it (I think there may be somewhere in South America as well, but I'm not sure).

Travelling with it will be more than fine. He doesn't know what he's talking about.

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