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Google’s $179 Moto G puts every single cheap Android phone to shame

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Re: Google’s $179 Moto G puts every single cheap Android phone to shame

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They don't need to. You can get an unlimited data + 100 minute no contract plan from t-mobile for $30/month.

Where's that? I can only find $50, $60 and $70 plans: http://www.t-mobile.com/cell-phone-plans/individual.html

Look at "Which plan is right for you" on their pre-paid site: http://prepaid-phones.t-mobile.com/prepaid-plans

Re: Google’s $179 Moto G puts every single cheap Android phone to shame

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They don't need to. You can get an unlimited data + 100 minute no contract plan from t-mobile for $30/month.

Where's that? I can only find $50, $60 and $70 plans: http://www.t-mobile.com/cell-phone-plans/individual.html

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Re: Google’s $179 Moto G puts every single cheap Android phone to shame

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Google is making a big play on smartphone for everyone model. Now if they could get carriers to agree to cheaper data model, their hand would be really strong. To some extent this favors T-Mobile and other no-discount/cheaper plans carriers.

They don't need to. You can get an unlimited data + 100 minute no contract plan from t-mobile for $30/month.

It's not 4G though... If you want 4G, it's at least $50, $60 or more for more data.

Re: Google’s $179 Moto G puts every single cheap Android phone to shame

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It looks great, but as I've mentioned here before, I have some concerns about the cost. It's a great short term boon to consumers getting a device of this high quality at this price point, but the margins have to be razor thing on it, so how do they make money for R&D? What about Company X? What do they do, slice prices to match to keep market share or hope they retain a profit share? If they slash where do they get…

Google is not in business of making money with selling hardware like Apple and Samsung. Google is selling a platform, and then makes money from people using it.

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The fantastically inexpensive motoX has two flaws, and you're already down on it. Wonderful. It's good to know we should be unsatisfied by budget devices that don't have every single feature of a flagship device. After all, what kind of slob would be satisfied by a phone that doesn't do everything ?

Seems like you are confused. This is a tech site in which we're discussing technology, pros/cons of devices, etc. Not some religious forum promoting humbleness and gratitude.

My parent clearly has an axe to grind, and was not simply dispassionately discussing pros/cons.

Re: Google’s $179 Moto G puts every single cheap Android phone to shame

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post #84

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They don't need to. You can get an unlimited data + 100 minute no contract plan from t-mobile for $30/month.

It's not 4G though... If you want 4G, it's at least $50, $60 or more for more data.

Not true, I have the $30 plan with a Nexus 5 I bought from the Google Play store. I get 4G LTE speeds no problem.

Re: Google’s $179 Moto G puts every single cheap Android phone to shame

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The fantastically inexpensive motoX has two flaws, and you're already down on it. Wonderful. It's good to know we should be unsatisfied by budget devices that don't have every single feature of a flagship device. After all, what kind of slob would be satisfied by a phone that doesn't do everything ?

Seems like you are confused. This is a tech site in which we're discussing technology, pros/cons of devices, etc. Not some religious forum promoting humbleness and gratitude.

HN saw a problem with snide negativity, and has decided to solve it with mindless optimism and nasty remarks towards anyone who expresses criticism. See the Amazon drone thing.

It's not a good solution.

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A sustainable business with larger profit margins is usually better to have than one with smaller profit margins. Also, a business with clients who have deeper pockets is better than a business dealing with those who have less disposable income.

Apple vs Amazon models, both have their pros and cons.

Apple's strategy had them circling the drain for many years, with too little volume to build a decent supply chain and hit sane price points. They all but gave up on making open tools and moved down to crippled appliances, and even then I was honestly surprised they survived.

Re: Google’s $179 Moto G puts every single cheap Android phone to shame

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It looks great, but as I've mentioned here before, I have some concerns about the cost. It's a great short term boon to consumers getting a device of this high quality at this price point, but the margins have to be razor thing on it, so how do they make money for R&D? What about Company X? What do they do, slice prices to match to keep market share or hope they retain a profit share? If they slash where do they get…

You can see this with Jolla- interesting new entrant, aims to provide a less monolithic, more hackable device, built on the Nokia N9, which was widely acclaimed. But it's double the price of the Moto G, with equivalent or even slightly worse specs. If Google is selling its handsets at or near cost, and relying on the long-term value of advertising and data, then it will be almost impossible for anyone without the sam…

Assuming the only spec that matters is a CPU frequency etc., which is as incredibly silly and naive today as it always was

Re: Google’s $179 Moto G puts every single cheap Android phone to shame

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iPhones are not intended to be purchased for $649 except by the very impatient (or people who break/lose their uninsured phones). If you wait your 2 years, it's $100 or $200 on-contract. Of course it's different in emerging markets where contracts aren't the norm, but smartphone prices in the US are pretty damn close in terms of 2-year TCO.

I don't understand why people in America are so keen to pay for expensive monthly plans. I pay $5-$10 dollars per month on average for my cellphone on prepay. It doesn't make sense all to buy a phone on plan.

There are no $5-10 per month phone plans in the USA aside from things like Tracfone with 50 minutes per month.
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