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Plus the critical thing here: Backupify has restore. Who wants backup without restore?
You don't need to restore with Gmail.
Plus your response makes my mind boggle. People consider their gmail way too solid. There's lots of posts online of people who have lost their accounts completely.
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IIRC, the semantics used to be that if 1. You used the keep option, 2. fetchlimit was set to be less than the number of messages in the remote mailbox, and 3. The remote mailbox stayed above this limit, then you would find yourself in a state where fetchmail would say that it had fetched everything while there were unread messages that it would never look at. Looking for a bug report just now, I didn't see anything t…
http://www.mhonarc.org/archive/html/fetchmail-friends/2003-1...
While I can understand holding a grudge against any software that drops email -- that was in 2003...
[edit: also see markrages link on "why getmail" below]
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mbox can't be implemented properly, it is an inherently broken format. Or rather, a family of almost compatible broken formats. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mbox Sounds like Mail.app exported in mboxcl2, which breaks mail readers expecting the mboxo or the mboxrd formats. I recommend people to use IMAP for extracting the mail, and to store it in something outside the mbox family.
How is mbox a broken format? It's a bad idea to use it in a multi-writer environment, and it's horrible because there are competing versions of it. But for plain storage, I thought it worked quite well. What am I missing?
Thank you, Google. Glad to hear that the Data Liberation Front is alive and well: http://www.dataliberation.org/ From 2006: "We would never trap user data," he [Schmidt] said. [1] http://www.zdnet.com/blog/btl/google-ceo-eric-schmidt-we-wou...
I am glad they did this, as a user who already left the big G earlier this year. Its wasn't a big priority though because of IMAP and ICS. I already got my data out. If anything, I hope this helps promote the MBOX format for quickly moving mail around vs. error prone IMAP transitions.
IIRC, the last time Google gave a service the ability to download (export) data, they closed it shortly there after. (RIP Reader)
Exporting data via Google Takeout is supported for 15 (and counting) products, including Youtube, Google+, Drive, and more. Google made a commitment to make it easy to extract your data, and is executing on that. It has nothing to do with shutting services down.
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To play devil's advocate - you willingly gave it to them, with almost zero contractual expectations. In a technical sense it is their stuff, and they have graciously implemented a feature allowing you to retrieve a copy of it. I definitely agree that it's the "right" thing to do, but this kind of comment speaks of entitlement and lack of personal responsibility. They're offering a service, they don't have any inheren…
Absolutely not. The implicit agreement is that they provide a service to hold, manage, and use your stuff, and you give up a certain amount of privacy by allowing them to see it - and they get to advertise at you while you use the service, and maybe make money in other ways off your information. So in other words, it really is your stuff. Imagine if they locked your accounts from you out of malice - it's legal gray a…
Yes, it's your stuff and I don't agree with the parent. But you're not necessarily entitled to features for an easy export of that stuff. That's the kind of agreement that has to be explicit in order for you to feel entitled.
Anyway, if you want fair treatment and to feel like a customer and not a product, you should pay for using it. I'm on Google Apps, I have my own domain and email address, I can always move, I don't get adds, I can use the Exchange protocol, I have more options for importing/exporting and the email support has been very responsive for me. From what I hear Office 365 is a solid option lately and there's also FastMail.fm and others.
And btw, allowing them to advertise in your Inbox does not make you the customer, you're just a user of free stuff. And free stuff is great, but not when you depend on it (unless it's open-source :))
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They certainly keep deleted Google+ for over two years.
How do you know? Was it in click-through agreement when signing up?
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I think this is fairly obvious but there's a clear difference between "data belonging to a user" and "data about a user". The first is what they are talking about, because this is how vendor lock-in occurs.
Yes, there is a difference, absolutely. No, the line between the two categories is not clear at all.
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"We would never trap user data" No, we just use a different definition of "user data" than most privacy and civil rights laws. Or can I soon expect to be able to download all the data anything from Google+ buttons, YouTube to Doubleclick ads have gathered on me?
https://www.google.com/settings/u/0/ads https://www.google.com/settings/dashboard