ArangoDB

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Post by majidazimi » Fri, Dec 06, 2013, 6:39 AM UTC

An open-source database with a flexible data model for documents, graphs, and key-values. Build high performance applications using a convenient sql-like query language or JavaScript extensions.

ArangoDB
arangodb.org

Re: ArangoDB

#2

Post by saurik » Fri, Dec 06, 2013, 7:40 AM UTC

> As a relational database user we are used to treat the database as stupid and mainly use it to save and retrieve data. ArangoDB lets you extend the database using Javascript (production ready) and Mruby (experimental).

?!? A common complaint against relational database people are having "too much" logic in the database. (I clearly don't agree, using store procedures and custom extensions ;P.)

Re: ArangoDB

#3

Post by coolsunglasses » Fri, Dec 06, 2013, 7:48 AM UTC

I like that they're sufficiently ignorant of MongoDB's implementation to misattribute the primary cause of excessive space usage.

Gives me confidence trust them with my data.

Re: ArangoDB

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Post by shin_lao » Fri, Dec 06, 2013, 7:50 AM UTC

I have a feeling, tell me if you share it.

"Wouldn't it be cool to have a multipurpose database which we would be able to query with a language, but not SQL, because SQL sucks, for some reason.".

Put it differently, what does ArangoDB, MongoDB, whateverDB bring that relational databases didn't bring 30 years ago?

Re: ArangoDB

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Post by jsteemann » Fri, Dec 06, 2013, 8:07 AM UTC

shin_lao wrote: post #4

I have a feeling, tell me if you share it. "Wouldn't it be cool to have a multipurpose database which we would be able to query with a language, but not SQL, because SQL sucks, for some reason.". Put it differently, what does ArangoDB, MongoDB, whateverDB bring that relational databases didn't bring 30 years ago?

To name just a few: - being relaxed about schemas: no more long-running ALTER TABLE commands, no more up-front schema definitions that waste time when doing proof-of-concepts etc. - being friendly to variable and hierarchical data: no more entity-attribute-value patterns and necessity to store JSON etc. as BLOBs - integration of scripting languages such as JavaScript, so you can have one language for the full stack if you want - embracing web standards (HTTP, JSON) - no object-relational mismatch (there are no relations), as you can more easily map a single programming language object to a document

Relational databases partly offer solutions for this, too. But in a relational database, these things are (often clumsy) extensions and not well supported.

Re: ArangoDB

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Post by mikro2nd » Fri, Dec 06, 2013, 8:19 AM UTC

> There are driver for all major language like Ruby, Python, PHP, JavaScript, and Perl.

I chuckled at the absence of the most widely deployed language on the planet.

I dare say that there is a driver for Java - didn't look, because after browsing through a reasonable portion of their site, I still couldn't get a simple explanation of what this DB allegedly does and doesn't do.

Re: ArangoDB

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Post by vicaya » Fri, Dec 06, 2013, 8:27 AM UTC

"Transactions in ArangoDB are atomic, consistent, isolated, and durable (ACID)." "Collections consist of memory-mapped datafiles...". "by default, ArangoDB uses the eventual way of synchronization...synchronizes data to disk in a background thread."

So it's not ACID by default and practically not usable with immedaite sync turned on (huge amount of seeks due to use of mmap), just like mongo.

Re: ArangoDB

#8

Post by aerolite » Fri, Dec 06, 2013, 8:32 AM UTC

Is this named after Juan Arango?

Re: ArangoDB

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Post by RyanZAG » Fri, Dec 06, 2013, 8:33 AM UTC

mikro2nd wrote: post #6

> There are driver for all major language like Ruby, Python, PHP, JavaScript, and Perl. I chuckled at the absence of the most widely deployed language on the planet. I dare say that there is a driver for Java - didn't look, because after browsing through a reasonable portion of their site, I still couldn't get a simple explanation of what this DB allegedly does and doesn't do.

There is a Java driver and even an object mapper based off jackson - https://www.arangodb.org/drivers

This seems to be a mongodb clone with some extra features added on to make it a bit closer to a relational db, I guess. Looks interesting but likely suffers from the same problems MongoDB suffers from (data safety, scaling difficulties, etc)

EDIT: Have to say, the idea of a mongodb database with graph operations built in is pretty attractive for small network oriented problems...

Re: ArangoDB

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Post by poseid » Fri, Dec 06, 2013, 8:40 AM UTC

What I like on ArangoDB is the speed of development, as well as its native support for building RESTful interfaces.

Last but not least, it is open-source!