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Introducing Amazon Fresh

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Amazon Fresh isn't new -- it's been around in Seattle since 2007. What appears to be new is the Prime Fresh offering as a new gating mechanism for it: $299 per annum (effectively $220 if you're already a Prime customer), which also cuts away the delivery cost. At first blush, I'm not sure if the value proposition is attractive enough for me, even though I'm more or less the target demographic (upper-middle-class, 20'…

Back of the napkin calculations put the cost of Prime Fresh at less than the cost of Zipcar grocery shopping. Realistically, you can't drive to the grocery store, do your shopping, drive home, unload the car, and drive the Zipcar back to its parking spot in anything less than two hours. (And maybe fill it up with gas, if you're unlucky.) Even with a cheap Zipcar, that's $16 + tax per trip. $220/$17 puts the equivalen…

Shouldn't this calculation include time cost? Clearly that's where the value lies. Do you pay yourself $0 per hour? Of course not.

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Grocery delivery in the UK is amazing! I wish it was like this everywhere. All the major chains have professional websites, nice trucks, cheap service. Delivery prices range from about £3.00 to £6.00 depending on the time of day. Sadly, I'm moving to Canada where grocery delivery is nearly non existent. I hope amazon solves my problems there.

Yeah, when I lived in the UK I often used major chain's delivery services (Tesco, Sainsburys, Ocado, etc) when I couldn't get to a store. Safeway has a pretty good delivery service in the US for next day grocery deliveries (pretty much as good as in the UK - apart from the website, which is pretty terrible).

Though, one of the perks of living in the Bay Area is Instacart. Instacart is 100x better than the UK delivery services since they offer same day delivery that generally arrives within 2 hours (and then there's Postmates if you need things within 1 hour). They also have a subscription model like Amazon Prime Fresh where if you pay $99 a year you get free delivery for orders over $35 which is super useful.

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We've been using fresh in Seattle for a couple years. They've always had free delivery with a minimum order (it's crept up to about $100). The big "secret" is that they will deliver many prime-eligible amazon.com items. So it's pretty easy to hit the minimum if you throw in a couple of books or a hard drive.

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Amazon Fresh isn't new -- it's been around in Seattle since 2007. What appears to be new is the Prime Fresh offering as a new gating mechanism for it: $299 per annum (effectively $220 if you're already a Prime customer), which also cuts away the delivery cost. At first blush, I'm not sure if the value proposition is attractive enough for me, even though I'm more or less the target demographic (upper-middle-class, 20'…

I think you're making a lot of assumptions about who their target demographic is. Maybe it's not the guy who has time to run to the store in the afternoon, but the mom I know using Amazon Prime because taking two kids to the store is a huge time-consuming pain. My company also used AmPrime to order snacks rather than using our exclusively skilled staff to run errands.

It might not be right for everyone, but for those who have lots of money and little time it's a great service.

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Well, this isn't in my area, but I'd be all over it. First off, I live in a city center, and I'm single. I walk to the grocery store and carry everything I buy, so I typically go twice a week and spend about $50 each time. It takes about 45min to walk to the store, shop, walk back, and unload groceries.

If this is $300/yr, that means I have to decide between going to the store myself, or paying $2.88 for amazon to deliver my groceries every few days. $2.88 to avoid putting on pants, interrupting my workflow, walking to and from the store, and waiting in line. That seems like a deal I'd take.

Then again, when I go to the grocery store, I usually walk to the bakery, market, etc. Plus, being forced to leave the house, wear pants, and interact with human beings has some advantages. Sometimes I get too comfortable being at home, and the fear of starvation is good motivation to get fresh air.

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This would be more attractive if Amazon Fresh weren't completely unreliable--it's often out of stock of the products I want. I must throw my recipie plan in the trash on a regular basis. Whole Foods or PCC it is most definitely not.

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Grocery delivery is fantastic when you need it, even if it costs a little more than driving out and doing it yourself.

In the Twin Cities area we have Coborns Delivers (http://www.cobornsdelivers.com). It was amazing to have groceries delivered to my front steps in the winter time after we had a baby.

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I used the free trial in LA for a while. I placed quite a few orders in the two months that I used it, but ultimately decided to cancel it before I had to pay the additional $220.

The selection was somewhat mediocre compared to what you would find in a real grocery store. The quality of produce was good, while the quality of the meat was mediocre. The selection of wine and beer was abysmal (wine and beer were made available through a third party, but they seemed to have a very limited selection). The pricing was also considerably higher than what you would find at a supermarket and just slightly lower than Whole Foods (while the quality was not nearly as good...). They seemed unable to meet the demand for certain items (La Brea bakery bread for example), and in two separate orders they just didn't send some items.

I realized with the first order that you really need to do the in person delivery since you'll be stuck with a bunch of giant box/bag things full of frozen water bottles cluttering up your residence unless you return them to the delivery person. They encourage you to tip the delivery person as well, which I find annoying. If I'm already paying $220 for this additional service, why don't Amazon pay them a decent wage? In the end, I just don't order enough groceries to justify the $220 a year it costs.

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You don't want to drive to that Trader Joe's. They have the worst parking garage I've ever seen. It's really difficult to get into and out of without hitting a post or another car. Since the parking garage is above the grocery store you have to drive up a steep ramp to park. And I've seen shopping carts accidentally rolling down that ramp more than once. Also, I don't know if I'd say Trader Joe's is much better than…

Do you recommend the Lower Queen Anne one? And I prefer TJ's frozen food (I am an absolute sucker for the Mac and Cheese) and produce. I agree that the quality of staples are more or less equivalent.

The one on Queen Anne (upper, there isn't one in lower) is nice but pretty small. They are moving to the old Met Market location next year which will be a lot bigger.

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Amazon Fresh isn't new -- it's been around in Seattle since 2007. What appears to be new is the Prime Fresh offering as a new gating mechanism for it: $299 per annum (effectively $220 if you're already a Prime customer), which also cuts away the delivery cost. At first blush, I'm not sure if the value proposition is attractive enough for me, even though I'm more or less the target demographic (upper-middle-class, 20'…

Yes, and I think $299 price tag would be more compelling if products had better pricing.

I do my shopping at Shop Rite and A&P, and I find Amazon's price 20-50% more expensive on most of the items I buy.

It may be because I create shopping list around what's on sale, but I'm by no means a crazy couple clipper. I assume other people do the same.

My $500/month grocery bill can easily turn into $700/month, which adds up to $2000+ in added cost per year.

If Amazon offered lowered product price, coupon-sales, and charge reasonable service fee rather than annual fee, I would use this service, because grocery shopping isn't exactly fun for me.

It seems like most of the grocery delivery services fail, because they're too aggressive with product markups to make up for 'free' shipping.

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