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Real Men Go to Sleep

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Re: Real Men Go to Sleep

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Post by clarry »

terabytest wrote: post #31
ronaldx wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Using Noscript, you can whitelist sites or unblock case-by-case. Or, you can recognise that not functioning at all without JavaScript generally indicates a lack of interest in the user experience.

I'd rather say it's a lack of resources and interest in addressing a minority and jumping through hoops to make functionality that wouldn't work without JavaScript work without it. I'm not saying it shouldn't work when JavaScript is disabled, but some sites have functionality that cannot be easily (or quickly) reproduced without JS. They don't do it because they hate you or because they hate proper user experience.

> some sites have functionality that cannot be easily (or quickly) reproduced without JS

Having such extra functionality doesn't mean I should need JS at all to view the text content of an article.

Re: Real Men Go to Sleep

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Post by rfnslyr »

anonhacker wrote: post #98

I'll have to admit that I try to get away with as little sleep as possible. It's not that I'm trying to be a hero or show that I'm macho, I'm doing the whole nights and weekends thing to work on my product because I'm driven to make it successful and it feels absurd to trade off progress for sleep. I'm well aware of the potential consequences health and otherwise but I see it as a short term cost for a long term bene…

8+ hour sleeps every night is probably the single life rule I strictly abide by. Wake up not groggy, but refreshed, ready. Entire day you're just a power house.

Re: Real Men Go to Sleep

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Post by nostromo »

anonhacker wrote: post #98

I'll have to admit that I try to get away with as little sleep as possible. It's not that I'm trying to be a hero or show that I'm macho, I'm doing the whole nights and weekends thing to work on my product because I'm driven to make it successful and it feels absurd to trade off progress for sleep. I'm well aware of the potential consequences health and otherwise but I see it as a short term cost for a long term bene…

I'm in my early 30s now, and I've noticed among my friends that the folks who aren't regularly getting enough sleep have seemed to prematurely aged. It's not one big noticeable thing, but it's lots of little things, like how good their skin looks, how much gray they have, what there energy level is.

Don't ask for sources, because I don't have any, this is just an anecdote and a hunch. :)

I'm in the fortunate position now of being able to set my own work schedule. I almost never use an alarm clock, but I still get up around 8am, which is my personal indicator that I'm sleeping enough. I've also found that I have no problem working 12 or 14 hour days, much more than your average worker, but when I do so, I never take the time away from sleeping, but other activities instead.

Re: Real Men Go to Sleep

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Post by [deleted] »

spuz wrote: post #39

It was my understanding that while Google has nap rooms in some offices, they are seldom used. The culture is geared around long hours and if you are seen to be napping that is seen as a potential sign of weakness. Of course I could be completely wrong (I'm just pulling this idea out of a vague memory of reading about it here on HN) so I hope a Google employee will correct me. However, it seems reasonable that a comp…

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Re: Real Men Go to Sleep

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Post by wil421 »

rootbear wrote: post #75
wil421 wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I usually feel groggy after naps and it would be hard for me to go back to studying or working.

There are thing you can do to make naps more effective. I do well with a 20 minute nap in mid-day, but I'll feel groggy if I nap for too long. It's better if I don't lie down, but instead sit in a comfy chair, so I don't go too deeply asleep. If you drink coffee, have a cup before the nap, and the caffeine should kick in about the time you want to wake up. Other suggestions can be found on line.

For me I think part of the problem is that I cant just go to sleep it takes me almost 30 minutes just to relax into a state where my mind isnt thinking.

Re: Real Men Go to Sleep

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Post by enraged_camel »

nlh wrote: post #93

The culture of "napping = weakness / laziness" is still so prevalent in the US workforce. It's frustrating - because it's not logical, it's just pretty deeply ingrained. I set up a (rather nice) nap room at my company's office and I'm the only person who EVER uses it. It turned into a storage room. I sent articles about the virtues of napping - the studies - the benefits - the facts - to all of my employees, and nobo…

Correct me if I'm wrong, but if you're getting sufficient amounts of quality sleep at night, there is no reason why you should need 20-minute "power naps" in the middle of the day. (There may be exceptions, such as extremely demanding manual labor, but I think we're talking about white collar jobs in this context.)

Re: Real Men Go to Sleep

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Post by cesarbs »

anonhacker wrote: post #98

I'll have to admit that I try to get away with as little sleep as possible. It's not that I'm trying to be a hero or show that I'm macho, I'm doing the whole nights and weekends thing to work on my product because I'm driven to make it successful and it feels absurd to trade off progress for sleep. I'm well aware of the potential consequences health and otherwise but I see it as a short term cost for a long term bene…

You would probably make even more progress if you allowed yourself a good sleep schedule. If you "try to get away with as little sleep as possible", it is very likely you are sleep deprived, which leads to bad decisions and more frequent mistakes.

Re: Real Men Go to Sleep

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Post by jw_ »

anonhacker wrote: post #98

I'll have to admit that I try to get away with as little sleep as possible. It's not that I'm trying to be a hero or show that I'm macho, I'm doing the whole nights and weekends thing to work on my product because I'm driven to make it successful and it feels absurd to trade off progress for sleep. I'm well aware of the potential consequences health and otherwise but I see it as a short term cost for a long term bene…

What about the productivity costs of sleeplessness? It might be that you're actually hurting both your health and your product by shaving off a few hours of sleep.

Re: Real Men Go to Sleep

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Post by larrys »

enraged_camel wrote: post #106
nlh wrote: post #93

The culture of "napping = weakness / laziness" is still so prevalent in the US workforce. It's frustrating - because it's not logical, it's just pretty deeply ingrained. I set up a (rather nice) nap room at my company's office and I'm the only person who EVER uses it. It turned into a storage room. I sent articles about the virtues of napping - the studies - the benefits - the facts - to all of my employees, and nobo…

Correct me if I'm wrong, but if you're getting sufficient amounts of quality sleep at night, there is no reason why you should need 20-minute "power naps" in the middle of the day. (There may be exceptions, such as extremely demanding manual labor, but I think we're talking about white collar jobs in this context.)

"but if you're getting sufficient amounts of quality sleep at night"

Ideally yes. But there are times that even with the best intentions that can't be done. Anxiety, sickness, some important schedule issue. Maybe a big lunch that you shouldn't have eaten.

Naps work very well for rejuvenation.

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