NSA tracking cellphone locations worldwide, Snowden documents show

Post by swalkergibson » Wed, Dec 04, 2013, 9:52 PM UTC

l0stb0y wrote: post #51

swalkergibson wrote: post #37

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You say this in jest, but they may have opened a can of worms here. Some defendant in a criminal case in Florida subpoenaed his NSA file in his defense. It would sure be interesting to see if this location data can be used as exculpatory evidence to acquit somebody, or if it would even be available. It would be very hard to stomach if that type of information is only available to convict, not exonerate.

The authorities regularly withhold information that could assist defendants so it would be business as usual I'm sure. But yeah, that's one giant can of worms!

Post by mjolk » Wed, Dec 04, 2013, 9:58 PM UTC

lignuist wrote: post #59

I know a guy who does not have a mobile phone. Sometimes I am a bit envious of him.

Post by marvin » Wed, Dec 04, 2013, 9:59 PM UTC

angersock wrote: post #3

From the article: NSA Director Keith Alexander disclosed in Senate testimony in October that the NSA had run a pilot project in 2010 and 2011 to collect “samples” of U.S. cellphone location data. The data collected were never available for intelligence analysis purposes, and the project was discontinued because it had no “operational value,” he said. Alexander allowed that a broader collection of such data “may be so…

Post by Zigurd » Wed, Dec 04, 2013, 10:01 PM UTC

lukev wrote: post #12

DanielBMarkham wrote: post #7

So the deal modern man was presented with was this: we'll give you instant global communication for pennies, but in return governments and corporations will closely monitor everyone on the planet: where they are, who they call, how long the call is, their texts, messages, and other communications -- basically their thoughts. We'll record this forever to use as we choose. Trust us. As a global population, we seem to h…

Sure you can! Join the 60% of the world's population that _don't use the internet at all_. Or the 20% of the population of the _US_ that don't use the internet. You can even still use a cell phone, if you want - just buy a prepaid mobile with cash. And aside from awkwardness with your friends, you might even find such a life quite livable. You'll experience no material hardship.

Post by MrZongle2 » Wed, Dec 04, 2013, 10:03 PM UTC

ParkerK wrote: post #24

MrZongle2 wrote: post #8

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And that Google isn't limited by the Constitution in the ways that the Federal government supposedly is.

>And that Google isn't limited by the Constitution I'm pretty sure it is...