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Re: Is iOS7 jailbroken yet?

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Serious question: Why bother? Why is there such an interest in using a very closed system in a way the vendor does not support if there are (more) open alternatives? Is it because you are forced to use an iPhone by external factors, like your employer? Are there critical features missing from Android and all the others? Is it just your personal preference? I really don't mean to offend anyone, it's just that I percei…

iPhones, ostensibly, integrate much better with iTunes. I still have hundreds of Protected AAC files I bought on iTunes pre-2009 that will not play on Android phones. The only way to get around that is to burn/rip the AAC files or pay Apple to upgrade them to the other format.

It's funny that this is your reason to use an iPhone because a quite similar experience of mine was a main reason for my decision to stay away as much as possible from closed systems :)

Re: Is iOS7 jailbroken yet?

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Why can't people be patient? Jailbreaks exist for iOS 7. Be patient, and it will be released sometime soon. iH8sn0w gave an ETA of before 2014. They're carefully picking when to release. Don't rush things.

If one is in existence why not release now?

It's not user friendly to do. Jailbreaking on iOS has been shockingly easily lately when it's released.

Re: Is iOS7 jailbroken yet?

#33

Why can't people be patient? Jailbreaks exist for iOS 7. Be patient, and it will be released sometime soon. iH8sn0w gave an ETA of before 2014. They're carefully picking when to release. Don't rush things.

If one is in existence why not release now?

It's possible they're waiting for Apple to finish the first round of iOS7 minor updates before they reveal the exploit they're using.

Re: Is iOS7 jailbroken yet?

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post #5

Serious question: Why bother? Why is there such an interest in using a very closed system in a way the vendor does not support if there are (more) open alternatives? Is it because you are forced to use an iPhone by external factors, like your employer? Are there critical features missing from Android and all the others? Is it just your personal preference? I really don't mean to offend anyone, it's just that I percei…

Obviously you're right on a practical level: if you want to have a phone you can hack there are far better alternatives. That said, I think part of the principle here is that all devices should be hackable, and doing so can be fun for those involved and maybe improve life for some stuck using these things. I won't be writing them a check, but I don't think it's a pointless cause either.

Re: Is iOS7 jailbroken yet?

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post #30
post #5

Serious question: Why bother? Why is there such an interest in using a very closed system in a way the vendor does not support if there are (more) open alternatives? Is it because you are forced to use an iPhone by external factors, like your employer? Are there critical features missing from Android and all the others? Is it just your personal preference? I really don't mean to offend anyone, it's just that I percei…

I had to switch from an iPhone to a Galaxy S4 for a trip recently. Though there were some upsides, I lost count of how many points of inferiority and annoyance I noted while using it. I'm more than a little biased, but if I can have both what I perceive as a far better phone and openness, I don't want to settle for one or the other. Then again, I haven't used a jailbreak for anything significant in a long time, so fo…

For being a flagship phone, the GS4 is damn pathetic.

I blame TouchWiz primarily, as my fiancees N4 and my N5 are both an absolute dream to use.

So perhaps one of the things in Apple's favor here is the unified UI across all devices.

Re: Is iOS7 jailbroken yet?

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I'm with you on this one. I value my ability to develop applications for my Android device free from worry about a future update taking that ability away from me. My applications never need to be on an app store, and I can share them with whomever I like, in any manner I like. Why would I buy into an ecosystem that then forces me to hope someone far smarter than I is able to break the security of that system for me?…

Exactly, Google will never add codes to Android KitKat that tells T-Mobile about unauthorized Tehtering. /sarc

As opposed to Apple which just doesn't allow tethering on any networks.

Re: Is iOS7 jailbroken yet?

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post #34
post #5

Serious question: Why bother? Why is there such an interest in using a very closed system in a way the vendor does not support if there are (more) open alternatives? Is it because you are forced to use an iPhone by external factors, like your employer? Are there critical features missing from Android and all the others? Is it just your personal preference? I really don't mean to offend anyone, it's just that I percei…

Obviously you're right on a practical level: if you want to have a phone you can hack there are far better alternatives. That said, I think part of the principle here is that all devices should be hackable, and doing so can be fun for those involved and maybe improve life for some stuck using these things. I won't be writing them a check, but I don't think it's a pointless cause either.

Yes, I don't see it as completely pointless either, it's just a question about priorities for me (see https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6848177 )

Re: Is iOS7 jailbroken yet?

#38
post #5

Serious question: Why bother? Why is there such an interest in using a very closed system in a way the vendor does not support if there are (more) open alternatives? Is it because you are forced to use an iPhone by external factors, like your employer? Are there critical features missing from Android and all the others? Is it just your personal preference? I really don't mean to offend anyone, it's just that I percei…

I prefer the iPhone even without a jailbreak. But I prefer a jailbroken iPhone if I can get it. Is that not reason enough?

Re: Is iOS7 jailbroken yet?

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post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Exactly, Google will never add codes to Android KitKat that tells T-Mobile about unauthorized Tehtering. /sarc

As opposed to Apple which just doesn't allow tethering on any networks.

That's just not even remotely true. What Apple does (to my annoyance) is allow the carriers to control whether or not the phone allows tethering. But they do allow it if the carrier does, and plenty of carriers allow it (usually after making you pay extra). I've been tethering with my iPhone on AT&T, officially, for years now.

Re: Is iOS7 jailbroken yet?

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post #21

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I'm with you on this one. I value my ability to develop applications for my Android device free from worry about a future update taking that ability away from me. My applications never need to be on an app store, and I can share them with whomever I like, in any manner I like. Why would I buy into an ecosystem that then forces me to hope someone far smarter than I is able to break the security of that system for me?…

Exactly, Google will never add codes to Android KitKat that tells T-Mobile about unauthorized Tehtering. /sarc

The nice thing about android is that you don't have to care what Google and your your Provider do in many cases, because the "jailbreak" is official: You can install CyanogenMod or even Replicant.
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