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SpaceX Successfully Completes First Mission to Geostationary Transfer Orbit

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Re: SpaceX Successfully Completes First Mission to Geostationary Transfer Orbit

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They cut the live feed when an issue came up on one of their dragon capsule launches.

You don't think NASA wouldn't have cut the feed on the Challenger disaster if they could have?

They did cut the feed. The actual video feed kept going until range control fired the FTS to destroy the SRB's that kept flying along after the shuttle was blown apart. You didn't get to see that back in the 80's. That footage had only recently been released.

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They cut the live feed when an issue came up on one of their dragon capsule launches.

There is a little bit of hyperbole involved when you have an issue with them cutting the live feed on one of their missions and then claiming: "SpaceX seem to cover up any hiccups or issues they have and always present this saccharine sweet 'flawless' report of their missions. " You may want to dial it back a few notches - trust me, I tend to reach for the hyperbole a little too quickly myself. (Note - I read subscri…

yeah, noted :)

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This is made even more complicated by the fact that SpaceX isn't launching from the equator, which means the satellite will need to change its orbital inclination. Inclination changes are less expensive the 'higher' up you are, so SES8 is in an orbit with an apogee almost twice as high as its eventual orbit. This allows it to use less fuel to correct the inclination. I haven't read up on the burn plans, but it's poss…

Bi-elliptic transfer sounds like a plausible explanation but my math gives it a bigger delta-v requirement than a straightforward Hohmann transfer. Bi-elliptic transfer: (2.713240 + 0.908982 + 0.485255) = 4.107477 km/s Hohmann transfer: (2.335977 + 1.431307) = 3.7672853 km/s This alone does not explain why they did so. But this is all assuming that the trajectory is planar. If there was a plane change coupled with th…

If there is a plane change involved (as apparently there is), then getting further out before executing the plane change involves less delta-v; performing a plane-change maneuver at apogee is by far the most efficient way.

Re: SpaceX Successfully Completes First Mission to Geostationary Transfer Orbit

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It's easy to miss how important this launch is. SpaceX builds rockets but lots of organizations around the world have built and continue to build rockets that do everything that this rocket did, and sometimes more. But in some ways that's also why this launch is impressive. SpaceX is a private company that has developed its launch vehicles outside of a conventional government procurement program, on their own terms.…

Just makes me sad that they're not publicly traded, because I would have placed a big bet (investment) on the company last week. Then again, perhaps it's for the best so that Lockheed, Boeing and ULA friends don't just buy them and shut them down. I hope our 21st century Howard Hughes gets rich off this and starts even more disruptive companies with the spoils.

>Just makes me sad that they're not publicly traded

I used to think that too, but then I read about Elon's opinion on that and changed my mind. Being privately owned allows them to take huge risks and whether the inevitable catastrophic failure. You can't really do that when you have to be accountable to millions of shareholders and market pressures.

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It's easy to miss how important this launch is. SpaceX builds rockets but lots of organizations around the world have built and continue to build rockets that do everything that this rocket did, and sometimes more. But in some ways that's also why this launch is impressive. SpaceX is a private company that has developed its launch vehicles outside of a conventional government procurement program, on their own terms.…

As 3rd world nations develop economically, SpaceX should be able to make a ton of money selling a ready-made "space program in a box" to US-friendly nations that want to demonstrate their new affluence. There is a big question if the US state department will let them, however.

Re: SpaceX Successfully Completes First Mission to Geostationary Transfer Orbit

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It's cool to see so many people excited about this launch. Just wanted to remind people that we have a lot of software job openings right now. People are often surprised to learn that SpaceX is hiring web developers - http://www.spacex.com/careers/position/3890 . There are some interesting internal tools projects that are critical parts of each mission. We have embedded developer, PM, and test roles open as well.

I think working on software at SpaceX would be seriously cool, but for unrelated reasons now's not a good time for me to pursue such a dream. I do want to make a move to something like spaceflight eventually - sort of a childhood dream of mine. If I may ask, are there any open-source projects or other technologies you would recommend for someone to work on if they wanted to prepare for such a career a few years from now? Currently I work primarily with with distributed systems / Linux distributions if that affects your suggestions at all... I've heard from some other friends that Ada is a must-have and that Matlab's Simulink is the future - but they do government work exclusively, so I'm not sure how it compares to a "space startup" like you.

Re: SpaceX Successfully Completes First Mission to Geostationary Transfer Orbit

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The fact that SpaceX is hiring web developers is not surprising per-se. The fact that it is a 'frontend' position and that page says it's 'avionics' - that is surprising indeed.

I think there might actually be a bit of a scope for some public-side web development that interfaces (indirectly!) with the avionics. Some other launch providers do animations based on vehicle telemetry once the vehicle is out of range. Last night, SpaceX just showed a static image. Given that there's a lot of interest in their webcasts, I imagine they'd like to do better at some point... [Edit: kind-of wonder if th…

Yeah, I did expect to see some telemetry. At least, the orbital parameters.

SpaceX should just provide an API for that, we'll build the rest ;)

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It's easy to miss how important this launch is. SpaceX builds rockets but lots of organizations around the world have built and continue to build rockets that do everything that this rocket did, and sometimes more. But in some ways that's also why this launch is impressive. SpaceX is a private company that has developed its launch vehicles outside of a conventional government procurement program, on their own terms.…

Just makes me sad that they're not publicly traded, because I would have placed a big bet (investment) on the company last week. Then again, perhaps it's for the best so that Lockheed, Boeing and ULA friends don't just buy them and shut them down. I hope our 21st century Howard Hughes gets rich off this and starts even more disruptive companies with the spoils.

If they were publicly traded, they'd probably get drawn into the Wall Street trend of short-term profit above all else. Why risk whether you can sell the long-term vision of cheap travel to and colonization of Mars to institutional investors and speculators? Odds are it'll never happen at SpaceX unless company ownership is limited to people who share the long-term vision, which is kind of the opposite of being publicly traded.

Re: SpaceX Successfully Completes First Mission to Geostationary Transfer Orbit

#49

It's easy to miss how important this launch is. SpaceX builds rockets but lots of organizations around the world have built and continue to build rockets that do everything that this rocket did, and sometimes more. But in some ways that's also why this launch is impressive. SpaceX is a private company that has developed its launch vehicles outside of a conventional government procurement program, on their own terms.…

Just makes me sad that they're not publicly traded, because I would have placed a big bet (investment) on the company last week. Then again, perhaps it's for the best so that Lockheed, Boeing and ULA friends don't just buy them and shut them down. I hope our 21st century Howard Hughes gets rich off this and starts even more disruptive companies with the spoils.

Musk has said that SpaceX won't consider going public at least until the MCT is flying regularly.

If SpaceX went public, became a wildly successful earth-orbit rocket company and made Musk very rich, I believe he would consider that a failure.

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SpaceX is the company that really makes Elon Musk a role model for me. I find everything they do inspirational. I must have watched that video of their employees outside mission control watching the falcon 9 launch a dozen times [1]. You should see the lines of students at my university's career fair when they come, you almost can't even see the recruiters behind the sea of undergrads swarming their booth. [1] http:/…

Due to Space-X's approach and achievements I find myself excited by space for the time since the early '70s when Apollo ended and it was clear nothing much would come from NASA for the foreseeable future.

OK, staying up and watching Neptune All Night in 1989 as our first and last probe for it, Voyager 2, flew past it, and we received the first pictures was cool, but Space-X is about seriously getting out into space potentially in an long term economical way.

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