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An HTML5 app turned native in 10 minutes with PhoneGap Build?

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Re: An HTML5 app turned native in 10 minutes with PhoneGap Build?

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If you want to install the phonegap app on your ios device for tests and later publish to the app store you still need a mac.

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After you added your app on itunesconnect you can upload the binary. You need "application loader" for that. I haven't found another way, but would be very pleased if there is one.

Re: An HTML5 app turned native in 10 minutes with PhoneGap Build?

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Addressing the jQM concern, this is why we built Ionic ( http://ionicframework.com/ ). It's still alpha and we have a ways to go, but the UI is more "native" centric and we have been improving animation performance over the last week, and on new iOS devices it's hard to tell the difference between simple native app and the hybrid one. Hopefully you'll find it a better solution for hybrid apps.

I tried Ionic on Friday last week. The example code didn't work 'out of the box', and there isn't any documentation explaining how to use it. I tried with PhoneGap, with Cordova and running it in a browser both with and without Ripple. I got pretty much nowhere. Contrast that to trying jQM 1.4 RC1 and having a working example running on my phone in about half an hour with Phonegap.

Open source projects live and die on their community, which springs from examples and documentation that people can learn from. I like the look of Ionic, especially if it was decoupled from Angular, but until it's possible to actually do something with it I (and I imagine many others) can't help out with it.

tl;dr Documentation is critical. Write some, don't just rely on your "doc generator".

Re: An HTML5 app turned native in 10 minutes with PhoneGap Build?

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After you added your app on itunesconnect you can upload the binary. You need "application loader" for that. I haven't found another way, but would be very pleased if there is one.

Yup, sorry you are right. I've heard of people using a service like http://www.appstoreuploader.com but I haven't personally.

Re: An HTML5 app turned native in 10 minutes with PhoneGap Build?

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After you added your app on itunesconnect you can upload the binary. You need "application loader" for that. I haven't found another way, but would be very pleased if there is one.

Yup, sorry you are right. I've heard of people using a service like http://www.appstoreuploader.com but I haven't personally.

Sure, let's give out your iTunesConnect password, what could go wrong?

Re: An HTML5 app turned native in 10 minutes with PhoneGap Build?

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Addressing the jQM concern, this is why we built Ionic ( http://ionicframework.com/ ). It's still alpha and we have a ways to go, but the UI is more "native" centric and we have been improving animation performance over the last week, and on new iOS devices it's hard to tell the difference between simple native app and the hybrid one. Hopefully you'll find it a better solution for hybrid apps.

I tried Ionic on Friday last week. The example code didn't work 'out of the box', and there isn't any documentation explaining how to use it. I tried with PhoneGap, with Cordova and running it in a browser both with and without Ripple. I got pretty much nowhere. Contrast that to trying jQM 1.4 RC1 and having a working example running on my phone in about half an hour with Phonegap. Open source projects live and die o…

Trust me, we know we need to work on docs and tutorials, and we are. Also note that we weren't actually ready to go live last Friday, so there's that, too (someone else submitted our test site).

The community has actually been more active than we expected, and the forum is seeing a lot of activity in the last week: http://forum.ionicframework.com/

Re: An HTML5 app turned native in 10 minutes with PhoneGap Build?

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Addressing the jQM concern, this is why we built Ionic ( http://ionicframework.com/ ). It's still alpha and we have a ways to go, but the UI is more "native" centric and we have been improving animation performance over the last week, and on new iOS devices it's hard to tell the difference between simple native app and the hybrid one. Hopefully you'll find it a better solution for hybrid apps.

A simple video showing features would've been really helpful.

Re: An HTML5 app turned native in 10 minutes with PhoneGap Build?

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Now, this is pie-in-the-sky thinking, but I'd love to see something like Xamarin, that uses JS (for logic) and HTML/subset of CSS (for presentation) that builds cross-platform using native widgets. Hey, one can dream, can't they?

I think this will stay a dream for a very long while. If Xamarin would create controls based on the lowest common denominator of each platform (with regards to functionality), the capabilities of said controls would be very limited indeed, likely only useful for the most basic of apps.

Re: An HTML5 app turned native in 10 minutes with PhoneGap Build?

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But there is reports that Apple will not let you through since jQuery mobile animations perform too poorly, oups. If you read the first answer on the page he links to it sounds like the application was missing a lot of optimisation and was overall executed poorly.

I work at a big bank and we're developing a very complex application using only jQuery Mobile and Angular JS & fastclick.js. If properly executed, the app runs beautifully and very, very smoothly. Even as a webapp it performs exactly as native.

JQM is beautiful if you really know how to use and know what you're doing.

We're deploying on 20 devices with only one code base and it works flawlessly, it's amazing. We only use native to patch holes or do things we can't do easily with html/css/js.

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