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Re: Yotaphone

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Post by ansible »

freehunter wrote: post #70
BrechtVds wrote: post #2

The "Scroll down" hint wasn't obvious enough for me. I'd also show both screens as soon as you land on the page, as that is the unique feature of this phone and it took me quite some time before I actually found it. (If you don't scroll but just click on the links you just see 1 screen at a time. If you aren't really paying attention you don't notice that there are 2 different ones)

Yeah, I was calling bullshit several times when the text was going on and on about the e-ink screen right next to a picture of a beautiful, vibrant, full-color display. I was clicking each section rather than scrolling, so I never saw the back until I clicked "tech specs".

Yes, that is exactly what happened with me. I was thinking they had somehow make a fast color e-ink display, but the main screen looked like a regular LCD. Then I finally concluded that they were putting the e-ink on the back (which makes a heck of a lot more sense) and was able to confirm it by looking at the tech specs. Then I come to HN, and see I should have been scrolling down all along.

So, yeah, I'm officially done with fancy scroll effects.

Re: Yotaphone

#82

Post by kgarten »

Do people think having notifications on the back of a phone is a good idea? I just imagine several strange situations in the subway etc.

Re: Yotaphone

#83

Post by benjamincburns »

mradmin wrote: post #43
kenkam wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Didn't know I had to scroll down till I read this comment. Maybe a stronger call to action to scroll would be nice.

Weird, I get a scrollbar showing I can clearly scroll. Are you an OSX by any chance?

I am. Using a rMBP. No scrollbar on latest Chrome, and worse yet, two-finger scroll is broken. I have to attempt to two-finger scroll, mouse over the scrollbar quickly before it disappears (this took two tries because it goes away that quickly) and then click/drag to scroll (which I'm embarrassed to say is amazingly cumbersome now that I'm trained for the multitouch gestures).

Re: Yotaphone

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Post by benjamincburns »

basicallydan wrote: post #60
tbarbugli wrote: post #51

Looks like everyone is bitching and only talking about the scrolling issue (very common HN meta feedback). I find the use of eink screen brilliant! I hope they manage to go on the market (and in EU too!)

Ditto. I'm kinda fed up of people focusing on websites when the story is clearly about a cool new phone with an advanced display. If folks would spend a few seconds ignoring the site and thinking about the product they might enjoy themselves a bit more. By all means critique the site but don't let that be your only contribution.

I try very hard to overlook stuff like this in my own comments, but in this case it's so distracting. I agree that the culture here is a bit too strongly biased toward giving this kind of feedback, but as someone who's been on the receiving end of it, and as someone who's a complete design idiot and always looking to others mistakes as examples of what not to do, I find it incredibly valuable.

I'd like to see the volume knob adjusted down just a tad, but not so much that I can't hear that sweet, sweet music. ;-)

Re: Yotaphone

#85

Post by B3M1938 »

Trufa wrote: post #27
BrechtVds wrote: post #2

The "Scroll down" hint wasn't obvious enough for me. I'd also show both screens as soon as you land on the page, as that is the unique feature of this phone and it took me quite some time before I actually found it. (If you don't scroll but just click on the links you just see 1 screen at a time. If you aren't really paying attention you don't notice that there are 2 different ones)

It drives me nuts this new fashion of braking the scrolling, it's completely uncalibrated on chrome, I scrolled down the equivalent of a freaking book to get to the end.

Why not just click the mouse wheel and drag the mouse down?

Re: Yotaphone

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Post by benjamincburns »

SkyMarshal wrote: post #73
tbarbugli wrote: post #51

Looks like everyone is bitching and only talking about the scrolling issue (very common HN meta feedback). I find the use of eink screen brilliant! I hope they manage to go on the market (and in EU too!)

Downvote all the nitpicking, upvote the discussion on the actual phone.

I hope this doesn't become status quo. Anecdotally, it seems like the vast majority of downvotes are for attitude issues rather than disagreement. Even in the case where someone is outright wrong ("blah blah, because 1+1=3"), they're far more likely to receive replies which (often politely) contradict what they're saying than they are to receive downvotes ("are you sure about that? wolfram [1] says 1+1=2"), as long as the incorrect commenter is being courteous participants in the conversation.

As someone who is so often so very, very wrong, I find this piece of our culture incredibly valuable, and I hope that it doesn't disappear.

Re: Yotaphone

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Post by [deleted] »

BrechtVds wrote: post #2

The "Scroll down" hint wasn't obvious enough for me. I'd also show both screens as soon as you land on the page, as that is the unique feature of this phone and it took me quite some time before I actually found it. (If you don't scroll but just click on the links you just see 1 screen at a time. If you aren't really paying attention you don't notice that there are 2 different ones)

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Re: Yotaphone

#88

Post by mirzmaster »

B3M1938 wrote: post #85
Trufa wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It drives me nuts this new fashion of braking the scrolling, it's completely uncalibrated on chrome, I scrolled down the equivalent of a freaking book to get to the end.

Why not just click the mouse wheel and drag the mouse down?

Laptop users don't have a mouse wheel. Others may not have a mouse wheel on their mouse.

Re: Yotaphone

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Post by natch »

Some cool ideas here. Not new ideas, but if they are put into a shipping product, that will be good.

Then they have "Stand out from the crowd," ugh. This is an unfortunate bullet point, just for its lameness.

The screen doesn't look like a paper display to me. What am I missing? Are there color paper displays now?

Re: Yotaphone

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Post by luchs »

natch wrote: post #89

Some cool ideas here. Not new ideas, but if they are put into a shipping product, that will be good. Then they have "Stand out from the crowd," ugh. This is an unfortunate bullet point, just for its lameness. The screen doesn't look like a paper display to me. What am I missing? Are there color paper displays now?

There are two displays.
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