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Will it run in a Windows VM on Linux?
Probably, but these applications can often use every ounce of performance they can get, including direct graphics card access.
The obligatory vfio qemu link.
Valve joins the Linux Foundation
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Re: Valve joins the Linux Foundation
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The only thing that bugs me is that driver support is lagging behind so bad on Linux. I remember when Linus said something about why you should buy ATI for linux gaming. Because they have open source drivers.. In the end I returned my ATI card. My older Turion x64/hd3650 something laptop is still struggling with whatever flavor Linux. Still a work in progresss to get my Samsung 40" full hd TV through HDMI detected as…
Try again, I'm using my HP Minilaptop with AMD components on (X)ubuntu or Linux Mint, 32 inch samsung is detected better in Linux then it is in Windows. (automatically runs it Full HD compared to Windows' 1366x768 )
Cool, could you hint me which version(s) of (x)ubuntu and mint are working out for you? I couldn't get passed the Mint login screen after installation. Couldn't drop to tty either. System froze over :(
I'm now on ubuntu 12.04 which seems better, but still.. HDMI/dual monitor is bugging me out.
Re: Valve joins the Linux Foundation
#63While this is great, its a bit sad that Valve is mostly doing all of this now, because they fear losing their dominance on windows to the native Store in Win 8.x In the end its a win-win for everyone if it works out, just their motives are questionable.
Sometimes people just need a bit of a kick up the arse to see the light.
Re: Valve joins the Linux Foundation
#64While this is great, its a bit sad that Valve is mostly doing all of this now, because they fear losing their dominance on windows to the native Store in Win 8.x In the end its a win-win for everyone if it works out, just their motives are questionable.
He's trying to protect his business from a hostile actor - Microsoft. They are attacking others like Valve by radically changing the rules for what goes on Windows, and creating their own gateway. So what's "questionable" about that? The move seems pretty clear cut to me - it's a defensive move against Microsoft's obvious trend for a closed garden of apps and games.
> He's trying to protect his business from a hostile actor - Microsoft.
And Microsoft are just responding to Android and iOS app stores.
Re: Valve joins the Linux Foundation
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What's broken about it?
Video, sound, competing standards (which will hinder adoption), antiquated X11. Also when a full-screen X11 overlay (like a game) freezes then the whole desktop freezes (CTRL+ALT+F1 doesn't help). A Linux enthousiast will forgive these mistakes and find a way around them but Linux noobs wouldn't know what to do.
I'm not sure what you mean about video and sound. OpenGL is first class on Linux distros, sound is almost exclusively pulseaudio now...and X11 is on its way out, hopefully it'll be dead to most desktop users within a small number of years.
Re: Valve joins the Linux Foundation
#66Until Linux fixes its desktop story I'm going to stick with my Windows PC.
What's broken about it?
Well linux have 10 main desktop managers that are under development right now. Each and every one of them does roughly 80% of what I want from a desktop. And I have uncomfortable experience on all.
Re: Valve joins the Linux Foundation
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OS X is not a good platform for gaming. It has a significantly smaller user base of which only an even more significantly smaller are gamers. Playing on a MacBook (or at least on my MacBook) is impossible, and I wouldn't buy an iMac for gaming. On the other hand, you can put Linux on anything (for free!), from your mom's 2002 pc to the latest generation hot stuff. This means there is indeed a potential, and somebody…
You seem to be contradicting yourself. Gaming doesn't work on OS X because it has too small a user base, but Linux's user base is much smaller. Playing on a Macbook is impossible (presumably for performance reasons?), but you talk about putting Linux on a 2002 PC for gaming. And Linux may or may not run on the latest generation hot stuff, depending on how much time you want to spend to get your newest graphics card w…
I think GP's point is that the user base of OS X-capable hardware is a lot smaller than the user base of GNU/Linux-capable hardware.
Re: Valve joins the Linux Foundation
#68Right now the only thing keeping me from running linux full time is the Adobe Master Collection (PS AI LR ID AE...)
Indeed, it's seriously lacking a competitor in that sense.
I would say that GIMP is in top 5 of worst software ever made, what made me think of that is this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_music_considered_the_wo...
I quote:
Paradoxically, a piece of music needs to have been noticeable, popular or memorable to be deemed the "worst ever." A piece that was unpopular and quickly forgotten is unlikely to top all-time public polls a few years after it was released. A piece usually needs to have had a high profile at the time of its release, such as an unexpected hit that was highly disliked outside of its fanbase.
I think Gimp is enough of both, to call it that.
Also, OP, I've heard that the CS works quite well (the original, not the pirated) in wine, I haven't tried it myself but maybe it's worth the shot.
Note: I don't like to criticize FOSS, since I'm sure there are intentions are always good, but it's just that it's so bad :(
Re: Valve joins the Linux Foundation
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Why is playing on a MacBook impossible? (not a Mac user, serious question)
Intel GPUs lack performance when compared with ATI/NVIDIA. Plus they manage to have even more buggy OpenGL support, and their drivers are well known among OpenGL developers for lying about supported features.
There are Macbooks (and Macs) with dedicated GPUs.
Re: Valve joins the Linux Foundation
#70It will be interesting to see whether Valve can encourage the move to Linux gaming. Their biggest asset at this time is the distribution model of Steam, but that's not sufficient to get the big publishers to develop for OSX, never mind Linux. Edit: Valve's game list: http://www.valvesoftware.com/games/
OS X is not a good platform for gaming. It has a significantly smaller user base of which only an even more significantly smaller are gamers. Playing on a MacBook (or at least on my MacBook) is impossible, and I wouldn't buy an iMac for gaming. On the other hand, you can put Linux on anything (for free!), from your mom's 2002 pc to the latest generation hot stuff. This means there is indeed a potential, and somebody…
I've been playing Dota 2 / Hereoes of Newerth on my 13in mac air for years just fine. My only gripe is the mouse acceleration on OS X... the mouse feels horrible and you have to get third party software to make it only slightly better.