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Neuroon: Sleep mask for polyphasic sleep

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Re: Neuroon: Sleep mask for polyphasic sleep

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is it just me but do all of the founders look and sound really tired?

That is so funny. I was thinking the same thing exactly!

Slightly unrelated, I also wonder about stomach sleepers. it seems like all of these things are designed for back and side sleepers. I know that stomach sleeping isn't considered "healthy" (for back/neck reasons) but there are some things that just are the way they are.

Re: Neuroon: Sleep mask for polyphasic sleep

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WHY OH WHY is polyphasic sleep so attactive? Read about it a little bit, and realize that it is totally, TOTALLY unnatural, nearly impossible to maintain for any length of time, and possibly dangerous to your long-term well-being. Go hack something else. Leave your circadian rhythms alone. You cannot redesign them or improve them. If you are working on a submarine, then maybe polyphasic sleep is useful, because of th…

> totally, TOTALLY unnatural

Source? because the studies I know usually show polyphasic sleep as the most natural, and wikipedia agrees (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Segmented_sleep)

> nearly impossible to maintain for any length of time

crazy schedules like uberman, perhaps, but I know people that have been on everyman for years.

> possibly dangerous to your long-term well-being

So is monophasic sleep.

> Leave your circadian rhythms alone. You cannot redesign them or improve them.

Unless you can.

Re: Neuroon: Sleep mask for polyphasic sleep

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I am usually sucker for these things, but man, oh man :), polyphasic really! I thought this was busted long time ago as a myth.

Steve Pavlina was trying to do it and in the end had to admit it is just a way to be constantly sleepy.

Mask looks really nice, I would prefer it was a brain entrainment device of sorts. However, to end on more positive note, Kickstarter is great because they have a chance to show us their idea and gauge how much we are interested or not in it. So yay for Kickstarter!

Re: Neuroon: Sleep mask for polyphasic sleep

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I am usually sucker for these things, but man, oh man :), polyphasic really! I thought this was busted long time ago as a myth. Steve Pavlina was trying to do it and in the end had to admit it is just a way to be constantly sleepy. Mask looks really nice, I would prefer it was a brain entrainment device of sorts. However, to end on more positive note, Kickstarter is great because they have a chance to show us their i…

Pavlina is not exactly a reputable source. His ex-wife and business partner is a telephone psychic, and he takes her 'job' seriously in many blog posts.

They're either both cranks, or scammers. In either case you shouldn't take him seriously.

Re: Neuroon: Sleep mask for polyphasic sleep

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Is only getting 7 hours of sleep a night, really that bad? I personally like sleeping. I would hate to try only get 2-4 hours a day.

Do you like sleeping, or do you like feeling well rested? Most people when they say they like sleeping mean the second, and the point of polyphasic sleep is to get to that without wasting 8-10 hours a day.

Re: Neuroon: Sleep mask for polyphasic sleep

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I did polyphasic sleep for three months. It is possible and it does work, but what is overlooked is how perfect your sleep schedule needs to be. When you're hitting all of your naps perfectly, you're really not ever tired and you wake up without an alarm usually.

But... if you miss one nap, life is very difficult for a good 24-48 hours. Miss another nap in that timeframe and the problem compounds. Maybe this mask will help with that, or maybe not-- I have no idea. For me the problem was being near a good sleep location every four hours. I'd try to sleep in my car, but a third of the time or so I wouldn't be able to sleep and I'd be screwed.

Anyway-- I'm glad to see people working on this. I've thought about getting back on it, but the completely hellish 5 day transition period and rigidity have held me back.

Re: Neuroon: Sleep mask for polyphasic sleep

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I am usually sucker for these things, but man, oh man :), polyphasic really! I thought this was busted long time ago as a myth. Steve Pavlina was trying to do it and in the end had to admit it is just a way to be constantly sleepy. Mask looks really nice, I would prefer it was a brain entrainment device of sorts. However, to end on more positive note, Kickstarter is great because they have a chance to show us their i…

Steve Pavlina stopped because he was bored and it was not giving him more time with the people he loved (which was the point of it in the first place). Source: http://www.stevepavlina.com/blog/2005/10/polyphasic-sleep/

Re: Neuroon: Sleep mask for polyphasic sleep

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WHY OH WHY is polyphasic sleep so attactive? Read about it a little bit, and realize that it is totally, TOTALLY unnatural, nearly impossible to maintain for any length of time, and possibly dangerous to your long-term well-being. Go hack something else. Leave your circadian rhythms alone. You cannot redesign them or improve them. If you are working on a submarine, then maybe polyphasic sleep is useful, because of th…

You're probably right about polyphasic sleep. Biphasic sleep is worth considering, however, either in the flavor of daily naps, or simply getting up for an hour or so in the middle of the night. There is some evidence for the notion that this was the norm before artificial light: http://www.history.vt.edu/Ekirch/sleepcommentary.html

Segmented sleep and biphasic sleep are distinct terms with very different meanings in this context [0].

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polyphasic_sleep#Claimed_sleep...

Re: Neuroon: Sleep mask for polyphasic sleep

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Want to get comfortable sleeping only 4-6 hours a day? Have a baby. Seriously, though, while the page is a bunch of marketing bullshit I'd be interested in buying if it came out as a product. There really seems to be something to timing your wakeups to coincide with your sleep cycle. I have a very predictable 90 minute cycle and fall asleep very quickly, so I've had good luck with those sleep timer apps that wake you…

Are you sure, "comfortable" is the word you intended to use?

"Want to abandon all hope of sleeping more than 4-6 hours a day? Have a baby."
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