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Will Google Kill my Blog on December 6th?

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Re: Will Google Kill my Blog on December 6th?

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Jeff's Verizon stories have also been classics. I won't say I haven't been a thorn in Google's side (large or small I'm not entirely sure). But I've managed to develop some level of a relationship with some folks on the inside. I'm largely in the process of extricating myself from their services, but I had seen multiple positive responses. I can only imagine it's similarly frustrating on the inside. Remember: they're…

they're trying to address the needs of hundreds of millions (or more) users with a pretty finite staff. A problem of their own devising. I don't have any sympathy for them, they've intentionally built up their image of a company of geniuses who hire the best of the best, and they have made it a primary corporate goal to acquire those hundreds of millions of users. I speculate that the reason they have effectively zer…

A problem of their own devising. I don't have any sympathy for them

I actually made the comment more in the spirit of a "hey, you HN types looking at starting your own worldwide Web based service / company, heads-up, this is a problem you'll face."

That said: I've actually pretty much given your "they're Google, they're smart, they can figure this out" response when I've have noted weaknesses in Google's response / user support/service.

Though there are some companies / organizations which have gone a long way to building very-low-overhead organizations. Wikipedia and Craigslist both come to mind (and yes, they've had their problems).

Another story emerged out of the ACA/Obamacare rollout. One news item I heard concerning it noted that when Social Security rolled out, there were staffed offices located in cities and towns throughout the US where people could go for support. That's something which the online/automated world has largely done away with.

Though the thought occurs to me: what would the required infrastructure (and cost of development) be for producing a paper-record based application process for ACA? Would it not perhaps be simpler than the online version?

Re: Will Google Kill my Blog on December 6th?

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I work at GoDaddy and recently our CEO read an email from a customer who had been encouraged by a son to use Google services for his small business, but when he couldn't figure out some issue with support ("they talked way over my head"), he called GoDaddy and found someone that worked to get his account setup. Google probably, appropriately, calculates the cost of providing good customer support to hundreds of milli…

You know you're support is awful when GoDaddy makes you look bad.

Keeping aside Godaddy's ethical issues, their support is actually pretty good, definitely above industry average. The times I had to contact them in the past, they did go the extra mile to resolve the issue and even waived any invloved fees. Don't know why I feel this way but now a days getting phone support (especially 24/7) seems like a miracle. So apart from my moral compass going wonky, I have no real complaints about them.

Other services I tried:

Namecheap: Decent prices, great support, beware of domains with certain keywords (would require approval).

Gandi: Decent prices (Free Whois guard), poor support, beware of moral clause in TOS.

Re: Will Google Kill my Blog on December 6th?

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post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

they're trying to address the needs of hundreds of millions (or more) users with a pretty finite staff. A problem of their own devising. I don't have any sympathy for them, they've intentionally built up their image of a company of geniuses who hire the best of the best, and they have made it a primary corporate goal to acquire those hundreds of millions of users. I speculate that the reason they have effectively zer…

A problem of their own devising. I don't have any sympathy for them I actually made the comment more in the spirit of a "hey, you HN types looking at starting your own worldwide Web based service / company, heads-up, this is a problem you'll face." That said: I've actually pretty much given your "they're Google, they're smart, they can figure this out" response when I've have noted weaknesses in Google's response / u…

When Social Security rolled out, there were staffed offices located in cities and towns throughout the US where people could go for support.

When Social Security rolled out, there wasn't any other choice. (Well, paper mail.)

Re: Will Google Kill my Blog on December 6th?

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Heavily relying on Google product? ✓ Hitting a dead-end with Google's customer service? ✓ Have an existing audience you can leverage to get some random Google employee's attention? ✓ Reach front page of Hacker News? ✓ Good news! You should have your problem fixed in 2-5 business days. The rest of us suckers relying on google services get to stare at our inboxes helplessly, waiting for a response to our support ticket…

Or have a man on the inside to file an internal support ticket for you ;)

Re: Will Google Kill my Blog on December 6th?

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post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A problem of their own devising. I don't have any sympathy for them I actually made the comment more in the spirit of a "hey, you HN types looking at starting your own worldwide Web based service / company, heads-up, this is a problem you'll face." That said: I've actually pretty much given your "they're Google, they're smart, they can figure this out" response when I've have noted weaknesses in Google's response / u…

When Social Security rolled out, there were staffed offices located in cities and towns throughout the US where people could go for support. When Social Security rolled out, there wasn't any other choice. (Well, paper mail.)

Response-by-mail, yes, though the latency is a drag.

Phone support might have been an option. Even if household phones were rare, most people could get to a location which had a phone. However 1-800 (toll-free) lines didn't exist yet (though you could reverse charges with operator assistance). Hrm ... I'd heard a tale that 800 toll-free service began as the result of a request from President Ford for some way for the White House to accept calls from citizens, though Wikipedia's history of toll-free service doesn't make any mention, might just be a red herring.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toll-free_telephone_number#Hist...

More to the point: the idea of individually staffing offices is now pretty much a non-starter. Though I wonder what the real economics are compared with creating a national-scale Web infrastructure.

Re: Will Google Kill my Blog on December 6th?

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Heavily relying on Google product? ✓ Hitting a dead-end with Google's customer service? ✓ Have an existing audience you can leverage to get some random Google employee's attention? ✓ Reach front page of Hacker News? ✓ Good news! You should have your problem fixed in 2-5 business days. The rest of us suckers relying on google services get to stare at our inboxes helplessly, waiting for a response to our support ticket…

I thought google had support ... that's what the movie "The intership" lead me to believe.

I watched it with a group of friends. At the end, the only thing I could say about it was

"Well, that part about Google having customer service was pretty good."

Re: Will Google Kill my Blog on December 6th?

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I've been backing up my Gmail with getmail [0], as I'm afraid that a day will come when I'll be locked out of my gmail account and will have no way to restore it. My long term solution is to migrate completely off of gmail, but for now this does the trick pretty nicely. [0] https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Backup_Gmail_with_getma...

As a long time Gmail user heavily invested in it (with over 60GB of email), I'm waiting patiently for mailpile.is to get rolled out.

The MailPile page (https://www.mailpile.is/) mentions GMVault (http://gmvault.org/) as their method for backing up Gmail. I haven't heard of GMVault (or MailPile) until just now. Both look promising. I'm glad there is a push in this direction.

Re: Will Google Kill my Blog on December 6th?

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A few weeks ago I transferred a domain I bought from Google for AppEngine to my 'usual' domain registration service. Very easy to do, but it took 5 days for the transfer to kick in. I wish you had posted this earlier because this could have been a solution for you. That said, try it right now, and maybe it will work OK when Google/GoDaddy drop your domain.
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