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Dell introduces 28" 4K Ultra HD Monitor for under $1K, shipping early 2014

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Re: Dell introduces 28" 4K Ultra HD Monitor for under $1K, shipping early 2014

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Post by stan_rogers »

encoderer wrote: post #132
sliverstorm wrote: post #78

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What way should it be? Dell: Manufacturer (UltraSharp): The high-end moniker XX: Size Ultra HD: The name for that resolution Monitor: What it is Maybe it's because I'm an engineer and not a normal person, but the naming scheme seems quite reasonable. Way better than the utterly indecipherable "Dell 324y5943X" crap you get with some other manufacturers. The resolution name, "Ultra HD", is stupid, but that wasn't Dell'…

UltraSharp UltraHD is awful. You're right, they have to use UltraHD. But "UltraSharp"? That's what I was getting at. Also, how about just a simplified product line like, I don't know: Dell UltraHD 24" Dell UltraHD 32" Along the lines of Cinema Display.

Because not everybody needs a wide-gamut monitor with plenty of room for calibration at what most users would consider low brightness levels? (Where "low brightness levels" means that monitor-white is not significantly brighter than "bright white" paper under ISO-spec lighting at 95 cd/m^2.) $1K-ish is cheap for a graphic arts monitor (compare with LaCie and Eizo), but it's a heck of a lot more than the average consumer needs to spend for their purposes.

Re: Dell introduces 28" 4K Ultra HD Monitor for under $1K, shipping early 2014

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Post by jfb »

tcpekin wrote: post #122
potatolicious wrote: post #110

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Aren't all movies at 30Hz or 24Hz? I don't think there are any mainstream releases at a higher FPS...

The Hobbit [1] is the only movie I can think of that is shot at a higher frame rate, it being shot at 48 fps. [1] http://www.fastcocreate.com/1682085/will-the-hobbit-start-a-...

There are some noises about higher framerate movie production; The Hobbit was the first, and it was not well received. Motion at 30fps and higher looks very different than motion at 24fps, and part of the resistance to HFR is simply unfamiliarity; however, a lot of shots in The Hobbit were not improved by the 48fps presentation; I think that we won't get good results until film projection is dead, and directors and DPs can present at arbitrary frame rates -- there's no reason that, given a digital projection, a movie couldn't use 48 (or 60!) for certain sequences, while retaining 24 (or 30) for others. It would add another technique for directors to use, just as video has.

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Post by FootballMuse »

jfb wrote: post #74
RKearney wrote: post #60

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My 27" iMac can run in 1280x720 "HiDPI Mode", which is just the native resolution of 2560x1440 cut in half (quarters?). It's a native feature in OS X, although it has to be enabled manually before it shows up.

sudo defaults write \ /Library/Preferences/com.apple.windowserver.plist \ DisplayResolutionEnabled -bool true ... and then reboot. I run my main screen (a 27" iMac) at native and my secondary (a 27" Thunderbolt display) at ¼ res HiDPI. It's a good compromise.

This doesn't work in Mavericks (on external monitors), and as far as I know, there is no other method that works.

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Post by FootballMuse »

crazygringo wrote: post #42

Does anyone know, are there any Macs that can drive this in Retina mode? Does OSX on Mac desktops support retina mode for arbitrary monitors, or does OSX tie Retina mode exclusively to Macbook Pro Retina screens?

My 2012 15" MBPr can output 4k @ 31hz over HDMI to my 39" Seiki monitor without any hacks on Mavericks.

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Post by nsxwolf »

bhauer wrote: post #9

Awesome. I say this is a sign that the incumbent manufacturers are finally adapting to the heat brought on by Korean and Chinese newcomers. "Industry's most affordable Ultra HD monitor" is semantics. The Seiki 39" is still substantially cheaper, now at less than $500 on Amazon. Technically, that is a television, so I suppose "monitor" is a clever use of words by Dell. If Seiki drops an HDMI 2 version of their monitor…

I really dislike how scrolling and other motions like window movement look at 30Hz. I can't be the only one.

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Post by jfb »

FootballMuse wrote: post #143
jfb wrote: post #74

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sudo defaults write \ /Library/Preferences/com.apple.windowserver.plist \ DisplayResolutionEnabled -bool true ... and then reboot. I run my main screen (a 27" iMac) at native and my secondary (a 27" Thunderbolt display) at ¼ res HiDPI. It's a good compromise.

This doesn't work in Mavericks (on external monitors), and as far as I know, there is no other method that works.

It's working for me right now. Hmm. I wonder if there's some other default I've poked?

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Post by FootballMuse »

jfb wrote: post #146
FootballMuse wrote: post #143

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This doesn't work in Mavericks (on external monitors), and as far as I know, there is no other method that works.

It's working for me right now. Hmm. I wonder if there's some other default I've poked?

Sorry, edited. The issue is with external monitors.

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Post by FootballMuse »

HNaTTY wrote: post #54
seiji wrote: post #33

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50" for my desktop. What? Most people I know can't even handle the current 30" monitors. It feels nicer having two 27" monitors from a not-grossly-exceeding-peripheral-vision viewpoint.

I own the 50" Seiki and I use it as a desktop monitor. I need to modify my desk so I can move it further back but I'm getting used to the size. The lag due to 30hZ is a big drawback, my mousing accuracy is noticeably lower, but I can live with that. What I cannot live with is the fact that the monitor goes blank and then re-detects the HDMI signal all the time -- perhaps 25 times in the first few minutes and then onc…

For mousing accuracy, check out http://smoothmouse.com/ It changes the way the mouse is buffered and was recommended to me with my 39" Seiki.

Re: Dell introduces 28" 4K Ultra HD Monitor for under $1K, shipping early 2014

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Post by jfb »

FootballMuse wrote: post #147
jfb wrote: post #146

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It's working for me right now. Hmm. I wonder if there's some other default I've poked?

Sorry, edited. The issue is with external monitors.

Again, I have it working. Did you reboot? Maybe it's a video card thing?
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