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Re: Protests in Ukraine

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We have these kind of riots in Hungary (pretty close to Ukraine) as well. They are not really revolutions, but they are a good indicator that the people are extremely fed up with current government policies, which may lead to a revolution.

Exciting times to live in, hopefully the people will be able to get rid of the corrupt ruling class.

EDIT:

Just to give you bit of context on corruption... in the UK where I currently live, politicians are going into prisons for faking a couple of thousands of pounds as expense and profiting from that... A couple of thousands...

Compared to that, a couple of years ago, a guy called Bajnai Gordon was the prime minister in Hungary, who is well known by everyone for his act of destroying the whole agricultural economy of eastern Hungary. He did stole all the money from one of the largest companies at the time. Multiple farmers committed suicide, etc.

Years after that, he became a prime minister. Truly mind blowing. Those people are evil, and have cheeks, they deserve to spend the rest of their lives in prisons.

If you are interested about (the politically correct version of) the story, search for "Hajdu-Bet" here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gordon_Bajnai

Re: Protests in Ukraine

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There are no riots. It's sad that this word is used to label what's happening here. No one is burning cars, smashing up stores etc.

Re: Protests in Ukraine

#5

Someone who speaks the language or is there could please give us some context?

There's crowd of people who wants to enter president's administration building and 'berkut' police protects the building. Some fights were going on. I don't actually understand what exactly do those people want.

Re: Protests in Ukraine

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We have these kind of riots in Hungary (pretty close to Ukraine) as well. They are not really revolutions, but they are a good indicator that the people are extremely fed up with current government policies, which may lead to a revolution. Exciting times to live in, hopefully the people will be able to get rid of the corrupt ruling class. EDIT: Just to give you bit of context on corruption... in the UK where I curren…

Yes, 100% agreed, we had the same here in Brazil from June to November:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_protests_in_Brazil

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/brazil-protests-expand-to-over-o...

Re: Protests in Ukraine

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Someone who speaks the language or is there could please give us some context?

Ukrainian government suspended the prepration for association agreement with EU. Citizens went to a permanent rally on Maidan (the central Kiev square). There was a violent crackdown on it last night. That provoked the current unrest.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_Ukraine_pro-European_Unio...

Re: Protests in Ukraine

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We have these kind of riots in Hungary (pretty close to Ukraine) as well. They are not really revolutions, but they are a good indicator that the people are extremely fed up with current government policies, which may lead to a revolution. Exciting times to live in, hopefully the people will be able to get rid of the corrupt ruling class. EDIT: Just to give you bit of context on corruption... in the UK where I curren…

Yes, 100% agreed, we had the same here in Brazil from June to November: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_protests_in_Brazil http://www.cbsnews.com/news/brazil-protests-expand-to-over-o...

People are waking up all over the world. I wish the best for your nation. Never give up.

Re: Protests in Ukraine

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We have these kind of riots in Hungary (pretty close to Ukraine) as well. They are not really revolutions, but they are a good indicator that the people are extremely fed up with current government policies, which may lead to a revolution. Exciting times to live in, hopefully the people will be able to get rid of the corrupt ruling class. EDIT: Just to give you bit of context on corruption... in the UK where I curren…

Exciting times to live in, hopefully the people will be able to get rid of the corrupt ruling class.

In democracies, the people typically do this by voting for someone else. Why isn't that an option in Hungary?

Re: Protests in Ukraine

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post #5

Someone who speaks the language or is there could please give us some context?

There's crowd of people who wants to enter president's administration building and 'berkut' police protects the building. Some fights were going on. I don't actually understand what exactly do those people want.

They want the Ukranian government to enter into an agreement of cooperation with the EU (a first step to becoming a full member).

Putin doesn't want Ukraine joining the EU since it would put "Europe" right on the Russian porch, whereas Putin would prefer to have a buffer of client-states who take their orders from the Kremlin. Ukraine gets most of its energy supplies from Russian natgas, which has been the main "stick" Putin has used to get the Ukraine to toe his line.

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