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Jolla CEO: You will soon be able turn your Android device into a Sailfish device

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Re: Jolla CEO: You will soon be able turn your Android device into a Sailfish device

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Post by Zigurd »

kvtrew76557 wrote: post #57
fidotron wrote: post #55

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The non-optional-ness of Google Now if you expect Maps to actually function properly is the single most irritating thing Google have ever done. They're basically saying you have to consent to us slurping all of your info in order to use any of our services. The net result is I'm now always looking for alternatives. If I was a Shuttleworth type character I would throw my money into creating a Google-free Android with…

Google seems to have really lost the plot lately, forcing their policies and updates down our throats.

That coincides with Jean Baptiste Queru leaving Android and subsequently leaving Google. The core of Android has a surprisingly small team, so one person can make a big difference. AOSP is low man on the totem pole, and seems to have gotten lower.

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Post by ac29 »

sbt wrote: post #27
hablahaha wrote: post #21

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Oh man the Samsung version is the epitome of a train wreck. At some point, without my knowledge, NFL Mobile got installed on my phone and now every time I try to open a link, it completely ignores my preferences and asks me what program to open it with, one of which is NFL Mobile. It's just so nonsensical it's laughable. Nonstock Android is worse than Windows vendor bloatware.

This. I regret buying a Samsung S4 because it is loaded with so much crap. First, Google preloads their crap onto it, then Samsung preloads their crap ontop of that. THEN, AT&T decides that it should also provide you with messaging apps etc, so it preloads it crap ontop of that too. I am re-asked every god damn day if I want to connect the Samsung whatever the fuck (tm) to Facebook, and I refuse, EVERY DAY. I have no…

You can disable apps (even system apps) without rooting in recent android. Open Apps in Settings, find the app, click disable.

Or did Samsung get rid of that feature?

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Post by ac29 »

Nursie wrote: post #36
sbt wrote: post #27

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This. I regret buying a Samsung S4 because it is loaded with so much crap. First, Google preloads their crap onto it, then Samsung preloads their crap ontop of that. THEN, AT&T decides that it should also provide you with messaging apps etc, so it preloads it crap ontop of that too. I am re-asked every god damn day if I want to connect the Samsung whatever the fuck (tm) to Facebook, and I refuse, EVERY DAY. I have no…

Root it, use something like SDMaid to lock out the annoying apps. Done. No idea if this voids your warranty, but I buy phones upfront and unsubsidised anyway so it's less of a concern.

No need to root since 4.1: http://thedroidlawyer.com/2013/05/how-to-disable-bloatware-i...

Re: Jolla CEO: You will soon be able turn your Android device into a Sailfish device

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Post by htns »

frozenport wrote: post #20

The only thing that will save Jolla is a time machine. Its important to note that most of us don't like Google for moral rather then practical reasons. The best strategy might be to upstream Android to the Linux kernel and and develop a userland clone.

Jolla is a pretty small company so selling relatively overpriced phones just with the appeal of a different OS to a very small market might be profitable. At least it's a saner strategy than them trying to go against Google ":D"

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Post by bookwormAT »

scrrr wrote: post #3
rwmj wrote: post #2

He doesn't address the obvious question: Why? Why for the end user? Why for Jolla?

The end user might like a device that is not as interconnected with Google.

you don't need Jolla for that, you can just build your OS on to of Android. There are plenty of Android based OSes out there that do not license Google's apps. If you don't license Google's services then you can do whatever you want, and if you decide to stay compatible then developers can offer their existing apps on your software with little effort.

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Post by Elhana »

dingaling wrote: post #54
Nursie wrote: post #36

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Root it, use something like SDMaid to lock out the annoying apps. Done. No idea if this voids your warranty, but I buy phones upfront and unsubsidised anyway so it's less of a concern.

Other than the principle that the user shouldn't have to wage war on his own phone, rooted phones are usually also blocked from corporate networks.

Until corporate networks stop demanding 8 character long pin every time I need to unlock, I will refuse to have corp mail on my phone.

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Post by Nursie »

dingaling wrote: post #54
Nursie wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Root it, use something like SDMaid to lock out the annoying apps. Done. No idea if this voids your warranty, but I buy phones upfront and unsubsidised anyway so it's less of a concern.

Other than the principle that the user shouldn't have to wage war on his own phone, rooted phones are usually also blocked from corporate networks.

As the CEO of my own one-man company, I've decided to go with a fairly lenient policy on employee devices...

Re: Jolla CEO: You will soon be able turn your Android device into a Sailfish device

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Post by freehunter »

Paul_O_Meany_Jr wrote: post #34
freehunter wrote: post #31

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Here's a problem: I'm looking for a phone that can do T-Mobile wifi calling, which means I need a T-Mobile phone and a T-Mobile ROM, and I'm struggling to find a T-Mobile phone that has the least amount of crapware on it. If you use T-Mobile wifi calling, you can't flash a new ROM.

Is there any particular reason it has to be T-Mobile Wi-Fi calling? There are lots of free apps that let you do Wi-Fi calling through Google Voice (so you can still use your current number).

I want it to be seamless. I don't want people to have to call one number if I'm on wifi and another if I'm on 4G. I want to be able to make an outbound call and not worry about if it's 4G or wifi. I want to be able to send and receive text messages just like normal.

I want wifi to be just like a cell tower. Are there other apps that can do that (and that aren't a nightmare to set up?)

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Post by hablahaha »

jordanthoms wrote: post #43
hablahaha wrote: post #21

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Oh man the Samsung version is the epitome of a train wreck. At some point, without my knowledge, NFL Mobile got installed on my phone and now every time I try to open a link, it completely ignores my preferences and asks me what program to open it with, one of which is NFL Mobile. It's just so nonsensical it's laughable. Nonstock Android is worse than Windows vendor bloatware.

If you open up settings -> applications and find NFL mobile, you should be able to disable it.

Yeah, I was just upset that it happened in the first place (and obviously, after a carrier update) It's mostly annoying because my phone keeps ignoring my preferences about how to open links from facebook and then one day NFL Mobile shows up and damnit, I can only be ignored so many times!
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