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GTFO of my menu bar

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Re: GTFO of my menu bar

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post #4

I'm not sure being ignorant of things running inconspicuously in the background is much better than having an icon there.

The background one that bugs the heck out of me that keeps returning is the "iTunes Helper". I still don't get why that even exists on OS X. It's so un-Apple-like to have something like this exist as a Login Item in system preferences.

Re: GTFO of my menu bar

#12
post #9

When apps install in the menubar, my biggest concern isn't their visual presence, but the resources they are taking up by being one of those apps. The Adobe updater app for example doesn't need to be anything more than a cron job. I only tolerate the Adobe app because I use Illustrator and Photoshop, but I certainly don't need the other crap like Behance and Typekit. the the Google+ification of services everything. I…

I don't think you get to complain about these sort of things when you make the choice to use OSX.

I'm on the verge of setting up my MBP to double boot to Arch or Debian and slowly moving as much as possible to Linux.

Unfortunately, neither Illustrator or Photoshop are available on Linux. Are their open-source equivalents anywhere near the quality of their Adobe counterparts yet? I've yet to try InkScape, but I know that the last time I used Gimp, it was excruciating. I would rather work via ImageMagick, RMagick or node-canvas than subject myself to gimp.

Re: GTFO of my menu bar

#13

Isn't the better option to just not install crap on your computer? This sounds like complaining that you don't like television shows on a certain channel when you have a thousand to choose from...

Not everything that puts crap in the menubar is crap. The Google Chrome Notification is an egregious offender - it appeared without warning, ugly and unretinafied, and can only be (temporarily) removed by (1) doing everything it asks, (2) then quitting and relaunching Chrome. It's highly-visible systemwide placement for minor system-oriented tasks, and unnecessary given how much interface Chrome already has to work with. It sucks, but saying "you just shouldn't use Chrome" is a pretty weak solution for the small but conspicuous blemish.

That said, the menubar is a legitimate place for lots of things. It's great for services (eg dropbox), status (eg battery), and shortcuts (eg wifi).

It's a useful distinction from app icons in the Dock, which generally use more traditional desktop windows. I always like it when an app in the grey area (eg Twitterific) lets users choose where the icon lives. Like the author, I resort to Bartender to manage them all.

I wonder if menubar apps will eventually be moved into OSX's Notifications sidebar. I don't want them there, but I'd guess Apple prefers shoving into a drawer rather than sherlocking Bartender.

[edited a li'l so it made more sense]

Re: GTFO of my menu bar

#14
And so, as Microsoft Windows continues its precipitous decline, that bastard abomination known as the Windows systray icon finds a way to ride the mass exodus to Mac OS, much like small pox found its way to The New World across the ocean.

Re: GTFO of my menu bar

#15
post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think you get to complain about these sort of things when you make the choice to use OSX.

I'm on the verge of setting up my MBP to double boot to Arch or Debian and slowly moving as much as possible to Linux. Unfortunately, neither Illustrator or Photoshop are available on Linux. Are their open-source equivalents anywhere near the quality of their Adobe counterparts yet? I've yet to try InkScape, but I know that the last time I used Gimp, it was excruciating. I would rather work via ImageMagick, RMagick o…

Photoshop CS5 works perfectly on Wine. I had it running on Mint 15 for a while.

Re: GTFO of my menu bar

#16

Isn't the better option to just not install crap on your computer? This sounds like complaining that you don't like television shows on a certain channel when you have a thousand to choose from...

Not everything that puts crap in the menubar is crap. The Google Chrome Notification is an egregious offender - it appeared without warning, ugly and unretinafied, and can only be (temporarily) removed by (1) doing everything it asks, (2) then quitting and relaunching Chrome. It's highly-visible systemwide placement for minor system-oriented tasks, and unnecessary given how much interface Chrome already has to work w…

Chrome is becoming worse and worse, just to push Google's interests further. I don't get why there are still hackers who don't use just Chromium by now.

Re: GTFO of my menu bar

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The scenario sucks, and I really do like apps that give you the option (display in the Dock or display in the menu bar).

There is Bartender (http://www.macbartender.com/), which lets you shove all your non-critical menu bar items into a second menu bar like thing that you can hide away. So, while I have 18?? some odd status item apps running right now, by default I only really see the 6 or 7 most critical ones.

Bartender doesn't work with all status menu items, notably Chrome's notification status menu (maybe it's changed in the month or so since I last checked)... but Bartender "solves" the "GTFO out of menu bar" problem.

Re: GTFO of my menu bar

#18
post #9

When apps install in the menubar, my biggest concern isn't their visual presence, but the resources they are taking up by being one of those apps. The Adobe updater app for example doesn't need to be anything more than a cron job. I only tolerate the Adobe app because I use Illustrator and Photoshop, but I certainly don't need the other crap like Behance and Typekit. the the Google+ification of services everything. I…

I don't think you get to complain about these sort of things when you make the choice to use OSX.

And why's that? Almost all of the native icons (battery, wifi, sound, date/time, bluetooth) can be turned off in the menu bar (set to not show).

Are you under the assumption that OS X can't be changed? 'Cause with plists etc, you can do a great deal...

Re: GTFO of my menu bar

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The scenario sucks, and I really do like apps that give you the option (display in the Dock or display in the menu bar). There is Bartender ( http://www.macbartender.com/ ), which lets you shove all your non-critical menu bar items into a second menu bar like thing that you can hide away. So, while I have 18?? some odd status item apps running right now, by default I only really see the 6 or 7 most critical ones. Bar…

Bartender does even more than that, you can make certain icons reappear in the menu bar when they change for a certain period to make you aware of them.

And combined with iStat menus I even make for instance my battery-icon hide whenever docked and fully charged.

Also, quite some icons such as the WiFi, Volume, Bluetooth are only visible at all times in my case because I need a quick and easy way to alter the settings or be aware of them. This problem can be solved for me by automating these settings by profiles or my location such as School/home/on-the-move. This can be achieved by apps such as ControlPlane (http://www.controlplaneapp.com), you can even dimm your screen, kill apps that need a network connection to work such as Dropbox/Droplr/Twitter...

Very similar to what Llama (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.kebab.Llam...) does on my Android phone.

Re: GTFO of my menu bar

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post #9

When apps install in the menubar, my biggest concern isn't their visual presence, but the resources they are taking up by being one of those apps. The Adobe updater app for example doesn't need to be anything more than a cron job. I only tolerate the Adobe app because I use Illustrator and Photoshop, but I certainly don't need the other crap like Behance and Typekit. the the Google+ification of services everything. I…

I don't think you get to complain about these sort of things when you make the choice to use OSX.

Please don't peddle this FUD here.
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