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Re: Bitcoins stolen from the users of Sheep Market Place?

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Post by eloff »

dlsx wrote: post #37
eloff wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I hope you're not referring to marijuana, it can't truthfully be said that it's harmless, not even close. And any drug can be harmful, just look at the side effects of Tylenol.

I have smoked and ingested marijuana for over 20 years and my doctor says I am in absolutely wonderful condition for my age. >marijuana makes you smarter, stronger, and happier Prove me wrong. And I was high when I wrote this. Zero mistakes, flawless use of internet comment section.

I think you prove my point perfectly. If you hadn't dulled your intellect by smoking so much weed, it might be obvious to you that your current state of health has no bearing on whether smoking marijuana causes lung cancer or other deleterious effects.

You seriously think that byproducts of incomplete combustion are harmless? Even wood smoke is terrible for your health. So is tobacco smoke and marijuana smoke and just about anything else that you can burn.

Re: Bitcoins stolen from the users of Sheep Market Place?

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Post by stan_rogers »

jafaku wrote: post #48
allannienhuis wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just because YOU didn't get cancer from smoking cigarettes, doesn't mean that smoking cigarettes doesn't cause cancer. There are significant health risks associated with smoking pot, including serious mental health issues for some people. Quoting from http://www.drugabuse.gov/publications/drugfacts/marijuana : Research clearly demonstrates that marijuana has the potential to cause problems in daily life or make a per…

> Several studies also associate workers' marijuana smoking with increased absences, tardiness, accidents, workers' compensation claims, and job turnover. In other words, marijuana users appreciate life more and make for bad slaves. Btw, smoking is not the only way of consuming marijuana. There are also water pipes and green dragon.

>Btw, smoking is not the only way of consuming marijuana. There are also water pipes and green dragon.

And these differ from smoking how?

Re: Bitcoins stolen from the users of Sheep Market Place?

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Post by clamour »

eloff wrote: post #51
dlsx wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have smoked and ingested marijuana for over 20 years and my doctor says I am in absolutely wonderful condition for my age. >marijuana makes you smarter, stronger, and happier Prove me wrong. And I was high when I wrote this. Zero mistakes, flawless use of internet comment section.

I think you prove my point perfectly. If you hadn't dulled your intellect by smoking so much weed, it might be obvious to you that your current state of health has no bearing on whether smoking marijuana causes lung cancer or other deleterious effects. You seriously think that byproducts of incomplete combustion are harmless? Even wood smoke is terrible for your health. So is tobacco smoke and marijuana smoke and jus…

You commit the same fallacy... his current state of intellect has no bearing on whether smoking marijuana causes a decrease in mental functioning.

Aside from smoking, vaporizing and eating edibles are popular and safe ways to ingest marijuana.

Re: Bitcoins stolen from the users of Sheep Market Place?

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Post by bdcravens »

jafaku wrote: post #48
allannienhuis wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just because YOU didn't get cancer from smoking cigarettes, doesn't mean that smoking cigarettes doesn't cause cancer. There are significant health risks associated with smoking pot, including serious mental health issues for some people. Quoting from http://www.drugabuse.gov/publications/drugfacts/marijuana : Research clearly demonstrates that marijuana has the potential to cause problems in daily life or make a per…

> Several studies also associate workers' marijuana smoking with increased absences, tardiness, accidents, workers' compensation claims, and job turnover. In other words, marijuana users appreciate life more and make for bad slaves. Btw, smoking is not the only way of consuming marijuana. There are also water pipes and green dragon.

I'm sorry, but I don't buy that being honest (showing up when you said you'd be there, and showing up period, and in general being a trustworthy individual) makes you a slave. I'm sure there's plenty of habitual smokers who are great dependable employees who would be insulted at this idea.

Re: Bitcoins stolen from the users of Sheep Market Place?

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Post by makomk »

tedunangst wrote: post #24
AJ007 wrote: post #13

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My understanding, in the US, is if you have a personal account the bank eats the loss. If you have a business account its gone. This actually is very common. All it requires is enough mule bank accounts to wire amounts below suspicion and spyware on the user's machine (snatches RSA authentication key at entry if two factor verification is used.) The banks don't want the event to be publicized and the company/small bu…

To clarify, it depends on who was robbed. If bank robbers steal green paper from the vault, the bank doesn't know which business account that money came from. If it's wire transferred out because your password was 'banana', it may be gone for good.

The more usual issue is businesses getting their machines used for banking hacked and the hacker sniffing all their credentials and emptying their accounts. Many banks don't support two-factor authentication for business accounts because they don't have to - it's not their money on the line.

Re: Bitcoins stolen from the users of Sheep Market Place?

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Post by tedunangst »

makomk wrote: post #55
tedunangst wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To clarify, it depends on who was robbed. If bank robbers steal green paper from the vault, the bank doesn't know which business account that money came from. If it's wire transferred out because your password was 'banana', it may be gone for good.

The more usual issue is businesses getting their machines used for banking hacked and the hacker sniffing all their credentials and emptying their accounts. Many banks don't support two-factor authentication for business accounts because they don't have to - it's not their money on the line.

Totally true. That's just not what most people have in mind when you say "the bank was robbed".

Re: Bitcoins stolen from the users of Sheep Market Place?

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Post by michaelt »

baby wrote: post #41
pyalot2 wrote: post #2

You are surprised that when you trust your coins to the anonymous operator of a drug marketplace that you get ripped off? There's three separate reasons why you're screwed: 1) You have no recourse because you can't report the theft to police. 2) You have no recourse because you can't identify the operator, he's anonymous, which means he's also hidden from you. 3) You have no recourse because you can't undo your trans…

> As a good rule of thumb, only perform transactions in bitcoin doing legal things How is this a good rule of thumb? If you want to stay in legality, then do legal things, if you don't want to stay in legality, then do whatever you want. Your good rule of thumb seems more like a "how to be a good sheep" to me. > you seriously shouldn't have bitcoin, they're not good for you. Who are you to judge what people are doing…

  How is this a good rule of thumb?
A small fraction of the population are assholes who are constantly thinking "if I robbed this person right now would anything bad happen to me? On balance, would it be profitable?"

If you don't want to be robbed, you've got to make sure any assholes who consider robbing you are going to decide not to because you can make bad things happen to them.

One way of making bad things happen to assholes who try to rob you is calling the cops, but you won't want to do that if you'll get arrested too.

There are other ways, of course. Depending on the market that may be chargebacks, marketplace reputation, the loss of future trade worth more than the profit from the robbery, tipping off the cops anonymously, pulling a gun and shooting the guy, killing their prized racehorse, whatever.

It's a good rule of thumb to keep the call-the-cops option open, especially if you don't have access to alternative means of dispute resolution.

Seems to me if you're a customer of bitcoin drugs marketplaces, you don't really have any options to make bad things happen to assholes. So that customers got robbed is unfortunate, but not surprising.

Re: Bitcoins stolen from the users of Sheep Market Place?

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Post by clamour »

stan_rogers wrote: post #52
jafaku wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Several studies also associate workers' marijuana smoking with increased absences, tardiness, accidents, workers' compensation claims, and job turnover. In other words, marijuana users appreciate life more and make for bad slaves. Btw, smoking is not the only way of consuming marijuana. There are also water pipes and green dragon.

>Btw, smoking is not the only way of consuming marijuana. There are also water pipes and green dragon. And these differ from smoking how?

Green dragon is a drink.

"Water pipes" or "bongs" still involve smoking, but the smoke is passed through water. I don't know to what extent this reduces the ill-effects of inhaled smoke.

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