Being A Victim Of Revenge Porn Forced Me To Change My Name
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Being A Victim Of Revenge Porn Forced Me To Change My Name
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Re: Being A Victim Of Revenge Porn Forced Me To Change My Name
#2Man it's a horrible issue here. I'm glad they're making progress but worried about adding some more 1st amendment exemptions.
I can imagine this turning into a tool the powerful use to suppress "damaging information" or something along those lines. Maybe so long as it stays restricted to uncensored pictures of nudity things will go well.
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#3Man it's a horrible issue here. I'm glad they're making progress but worried about adding some more 1st amendment exemptions. I can imagine this turning into a tool the powerful use to suppress "damaging information" or something along those lines. Maybe so long as it stays restricted to uncensored pictures of nudity things will go well.
I don't think this is a 1st amendment exception at all; I'm surprised laws around likeness rights (or even copyright) are not at play here.
Re: Being A Victim Of Revenge Porn Forced Me To Change My Name
#4A lot of crusaders get it backwards, trying to protect society from porn (or its cousin, prostitution).
I would like to live in a society that was safe for porn.
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#5I can't imagine myself caring enough to deal with this the way she did.
I think it might be a gender gap thing - I literally can't understand this reaction.
Obviously I'm not an idiot, and would never cause this kind of pain to someone else, but it's foreign pain. It's the kind of pain I read about, and understand it exists in this world, but have no frame of reference for, like starvation or something like malaria.
And what are employers doing, attempting to confront their employees about it? Are these employers not educated enough in how the Internet works to know precisely the intent of those who've contacted them with this information? Perhaps an employer notifies the victim of the harassment, but certainly doesn't attempt to take consequential action against the employee regarding the material.
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#6I can't imagine myself caring enough to deal with this the way she did. I think it might be a gender gap thing - I literally can't understand this reaction. Obviously I'm not an idiot, and would never cause this kind of pain to someone else, but it's foreign pain. It's the kind of pain I read about, and understand it exists in this world, but have no frame of reference for, like starvation or something like malaria.…
> And what are employers doing, attempting to confront their employees about it? Are these employers not educated enough in how the Internet works to know precisely the intent of those who've contacted them with this information? Perhaps an employer notifies the victim of the harassment, but certainly doesn't attempt to take consequential action against the employee regarding the material.
While I understand where you're coming from with this... it seems pretty naive/optimistic to honestly expect most people to behave this reasonably. Most people are not as smart as you and/or have some holier-than-thou moral perspective to throw into the mix and wouldn't have the first clue how to respond appropriately to something like this.
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#7I can't imagine myself caring enough to deal with this the way she did. I think it might be a gender gap thing - I literally can't understand this reaction. Obviously I'm not an idiot, and would never cause this kind of pain to someone else, but it's foreign pain. It's the kind of pain I read about, and understand it exists in this world, but have no frame of reference for, like starvation or something like malaria.…
It's commendable that you're able to recognize that you have no frame of reference for understanding the distress, but don't go on to dismiss it as irrelevant or the result of overreaction. Too many people stop at that first step.
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#8I can't imagine myself caring enough to deal with this the way she did. I think it might be a gender gap thing - I literally can't understand this reaction. Obviously I'm not an idiot, and would never cause this kind of pain to someone else, but it's foreign pain. It's the kind of pain I read about, and understand it exists in this world, but have no frame of reference for, like starvation or something like malaria.…
I'm halfway in the same boat. I can't totally empathize with this scenario, but I can definitely understand that someone who sent someone else intimate pictures would feel violated at them finding their way into the public and topping search results for their name. And especially, as it seems, with contact information attached with them.
Your second sentence would hint that you acknowledge there are different social forces at play here.
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#9A lot of crusaders get it backwards, trying to protect society from porn (or its cousin, prostitution). I would like to live in a society that was safe for porn.
I see the point here. Attempting to put legal dogs onto this type of issue does not at all cover the scope of how society's perception pans out.
The fact that a legal system might punish someone does not in any way demotivate the behavior but merely makes it more intractable when it does happen. That someone is punished doesn't change the motivations behind the victim's name change, and other efforts.
The question still stands, for companies or institutions of victims like this: Do we want to affiliate ourselves with someone who has a love life that cannot be respected[0], that is out of line with our organization's ethos?
Punishment does not at all address this cultural problem: What is porn ?
[0]: "But the presence of Hip as a working philosophy in the sub-worlds of American life is probably due to jazz, and its knife-like entrance into culture, its subtle but so penetrating influence on an avant-garde generation—that post-war generation of adventurers who (some consciously, some by osmosis) had absorbed the lessons of disillusionment and disgust of the Twenties, the Depression, and the War. Sharing a collective disbelief in the words of men who had too much money and controlled too many things, they knew almost as powerful a disbelief in the socially monolithic ideas of the single mate, the solid family and the respectable love life." -- http://www.dissentmagazine.org/online_articles/the-white-neg...
Re: Being A Victim Of Revenge Porn Forced Me To Change My Name
#10Man it's a horrible issue here. I'm glad they're making progress but worried about adding some more 1st amendment exemptions. I can imagine this turning into a tool the powerful use to suppress "damaging information" or something along those lines. Maybe so long as it stays restricted to uncensored pictures of nudity things will go well.
I don't think this is a 1st amendment exception at all; I'm surprised laws around likeness rights (or even copyright) are not at play here.
Copyright belongs to the photographer, not the subject. So if the ex took the photo, the victim is out of luck.
Likeness rights are a bit weird and vary by state, but generally, they only apply to using a person's likeness to advertise or imply an endorsement of some product or service.
That said, there are more privacy-centric laws in various states that might apply here. But those laws don't really draw clear lines in the way that likeness or copyright laws would. Instead, these privacy laws usually turn on whether the information being disclosed is "newsworthy" -- not exactly a very objective standard.