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A closer look at the Jolla phone

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Re: A closer look at the Jolla phone

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Anyone know how the Android app compatibility works? Is it a fork of Google code? Can Jolla be shipped by Android OEMs or will they be banned by Google for violating the secret terms of the OHA like Acer was?

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Anyone know how the Android app compatibility works? Is it a fork of Google code? Can Jolla be shipped by Android OEMs or will they be banned by Google for violating the secret terms of the OHA like Acer was?

Is not an android fork, is derived from maemo/meego, and includes a compatibility layer very much like the BB10 one to sideload android apps.

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Anyone know how the Android app compatibility works? Is it a fork of Google code? Can Jolla be shipped by Android OEMs or will they be banned by Google for violating the secret terms of the OHA like Acer was?

Is not an android fork, is derived from maemo/meego, and includes a compatibility layer very much like the BB10 one to sideload android apps.

Yes, I know that, but does the compatibility layer include Google code? Also my question about Android OEMs still stands. Blackberry is not a Android OEM so they are free to ship such phones and Google cannot stop them.

See for more details http://www.engadget.com/2012/09/15/google-wants-better-compa...

Re: A closer look at the Jolla phone

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Anyone know how the Android app compatibility works? Is it a fork of Google code? Can Jolla be shipped by Android OEMs or will they be banned by Google for violating the secret terms of the OHA like Acer was?

I don't know anything about the legal and contractual aspects here (that stuff is mostly secret anyhow), but I would be shocked if they did not use Google's code to do this. To not do so would mean reimplementing Dalvik and all the Android infrastructure libraries. That's a huge, huge amount of code, and it would need to be bug-for-bug compatible with actual Android code. Instead, forking it is far more practical (if still hard).

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Anyone know how the Android app compatibility works? Is it a fork of Google code? Can Jolla be shipped by Android OEMs or will they be banned by Google for violating the secret terms of the OHA like Acer was?

http://www.myriadgroup.com/Press/News-2013/Myriad%20Powers%2...

It's independent from Google code.

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Anyone know how the Android app compatibility works? Is it a fork of Google code? Can Jolla be shipped by Android OEMs or will they be banned by Google for violating the secret terms of the OHA like Acer was?

I don't know anything about the legal and contractual aspects here (that stuff is mostly secret anyhow), but I would be shocked if they did not use Google's code to do this. To not do so would mean reimplementing Dalvik and all the Android infrastructure libraries. That's a huge, huge amount of code, and it would need to be bug-for-bug compatible with actual Android code. Instead, forking it is far more practical (if…

They licensed solution from company which already did this: Myriad Group.

Re: A closer look at the Jolla phone

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The Jolla UI looks like they borrowed liberally from Blackberry 10 OS. This is a good thing mind you, as I prefer subtle swiping gestures over tapping, and I like being able to 'peek' into my email without opening applications up.

Using the Blackberry 10 OS seems more like a true smartphone experience IMHO. Maybe Jolla felt the same way.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't know anything about the legal and contractual aspects here (that stuff is mostly secret anyhow), but I would be shocked if they did not use Google's code to do this. To not do so would mean reimplementing Dalvik and all the Android infrastructure libraries. That's a huge, huge amount of code, and it would need to be bug-for-bug compatible with actual Android code. Instead, forking it is far more practical (if…

They licensed solution from company which already did this: Myriad Group.

Thanks, but did what, though - do you know if they reimplemented Dalvik+Android libs from scratch, or are reusing Google code?
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